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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 07:06 pm |
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Bruce,
Cut the guy some slack, any man born in 1940 isn't required to be a typist or computer guru. You're from Lodge 90 and we don't give you a hard time.
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Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 07:22 pm |
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Ah, the wide eyes and open heart of youth...perhaps you'll be able to help our new friend across the street someday...
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 02:59 pm |
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Thanks Bruce- and if you have read or "The Best Of Nash Buckingham" you will note his (GBE's) observations of Nash's rather "horrific" typing form- I would never "make so bold" as to even put myself in anywhere near the same class as "The Gent'man from the Volunteer State"but as am "Old School" (born Nov. 1940) in my day- girls took typing and home ec- boys took mechanical drawing and woodshop- at least you did NOT point the "finckle finger of obsfucation- or even unmitigated mendacity (shades of Big Daddy talking to "Brick" in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof) as another recently allegedly did towards my own self here on this most August and Gentlemen Only forum- I do NOT understand all the "nuances" of e-mailings and webs (Charlotte's Web is about spiders, right?) so when I asked some of the more "harsher" gents herein to "cut me some slack" I was most sincere- I tried to enter a foto of moi -wearing the habitual Ray-Bans I love with two of y my three grandkids- into the Avatar thingy herein- for a profile shot- NADA-ZILCHO- And even ZIP- my computer won't transmit- nopr, after reading and re-reading the rules and regs- does my computer allow me (in my limited understanding) to start a new POST- if I could, I most surely would- love the chats so far as a "newbie" with likes of Destry Hoffard, Angel Cruz and Tom Flannigan-I will try to improve my "type-man-ship" but make no promises- I have tried the spell checker- it works on other e-mails (I sent one to Felix Bedlan recently- operated 5x5- but here- the words go into red -then when I hit the button again to re=spell, they go blank- I am a instrument rated private pilot (prop aircraft) and older school pilots often refer to such events as "Gremlins" Here's some pilot based (WW11 era trivia- a Bottle of Bushmills (but I get to help the winner drink it) to whomever gets it right- OK- where do the terms "Balls To The Wall" and "The Whole Nine Yards Come From" ? and what do they actually mean?? Also- for those who have followed the Hollywood crowd from the l940's into the early 1970's-and the number of celebs who have taken up the shotgun sports- In Dave Riffle's book on the Great (can I say that please Mr. Murphy even though I apparently "pissed away" a SC-! Trap to get my Pigeon Trap??) Model 12-there is an error in spelling re: a Hollywood celeb/movie star- a typo perhaps- for the guy on this web who spots it, again the old Bushmills deal goes--
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Francis Morin
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 03:19 pm |
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| Assume we be talkin about Guinness- although I've been known to opartake of Killian's Red from time to time- Of all the Gin Joints- etc- "my favorite movies all have Bogey in them"-- so- "Rauchen Verbotten" in all the DC public places- in Maryland and neighboring Delaware I believe they also went that route-shame. But anyway- Destry- I need your advice- My two inherited 12 bore AAHE's are too valuable to take to any double gun shooting events- and if I showed up with one of the three older Model 12's in my arsenal- well- "Sister Annie- don't you see no dust a'risin'?"" the smell of tar a billin' in de pot and the squawk of many chickens being "de-feathered" might be a bit alarmin'-- so I am looking into a "travel double"- a few questions Sir- if I may: (1) do I need to have an ejector grade gun? I am by heritage and preference- a devout 12 bore man-can I purchase shells at the shoot, are reloads permitted? Now, as this forum has strict rules about buying and selling Parkers herein-I wish to "tread gently"- the only reference books I have about Parkers is an early copy of Peter Johnson's (circa 1959 I believe) also Jack O'Connor's l965 Shotgun Book and Mike McIntosh's l990 "Best Guns"- Parker gets first chapter- I have located at an area sporting goods store a 12 bore VH- 30" DT- extractor- reblued with the later style DHBP (no "widow's peak inletted into the top of the buttstock- serial no. is 225xxx- can you tell me aprox. year of manufacture- mechanics are good- both barrels "mike" at .730" nominal bore- and at even .700" at the muzzles-which tells be both are Full choke-and a chamber gauge shows 2 &3/4" chambers. Price is in low 4 figures-haven't decided-your advice would be much appreciated-
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 03:25 pm |
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"The whole nine yards" refers to the length of the ammo belt of the belt-fed machine gun. Happy to accept the Bushmill's. You can send it to my home address. I'm rather picky as to who I drink with - no offense intended - drinking partners must meet certain size requirements to be considered for the position. . . they (or he) must be big enough to carry me to my GMC or to my home 
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 03:38 pm |
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Bruce or Daryl may help me here, but I believe "balls to the wall" is in reference to the knobs of the multi-engine aircraft throttle levers in the full-forward position.
Is that two bottles?
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 03:56 pm |
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Knobs on the throttle levers in full forward position toward the instrument panel wall.
Plenty of people take high grade guns to Parker shooting events and hunt in adverse conditions with lower grade guns.
My father and I hunted with Joe Foss outside Brookings. I went to elementary school with John Yeager. Capt Charles Yeager used to throw footballs to us kids. I met Gen Yeager again later at Edwards when I was a major posted TDY there.
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 04:07 pm |
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Any of these shooting events are pretty easy as far as guns go. If you don't want to shoot your Parkers bring that big Fox. Anything with side by side barrels is acceptable, even new guns.
You can usually buy shells but I'd bring a few just in case.
There's one in the UP coming up in June that's usually a good time. And I think somebody is having one over on the west side of the state coming up fairly soon.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 04:42 pm |
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| The Bo Whoop competition at the Northeast Shoot at Hidden Hollow this week is a great place to exercise an HE Fox. This will probably be a gathering of more HE Grade Foxes than has ever been held. In addition, money and trophies will be given to someone who knows what end the shot comes out. No googling allowed.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 05:24 pm |
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| Bill, perhaps one day you will come across a (S)HE Fox and you can name her "Fentress" or "Ella"...take your pick of Mr. Fox's vixens...Unfortunately, "Ho'ace" is still undergoing final detailing at Gratz Street North (like the little set screw for the top tang screw, etc.) prior to its trip to Geoffroy for its X grade styling so I may have to shoot "Joe Hurst", the 32" full/ full 8lb 6oz CE in the Bo Whoop Trophy... Attached Image (viewed 294 times):
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 05:39 pm |
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| That is one fine-looking Fox Mr. Kaas.
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Francis Morin
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 05:49 pm |
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Yessiree- it is-two full bottles of Bushmills have your name rank and serial no. almost engraved- fine job- very well done indeed- The wing mounted Browning .50cal. M-2's (we called them the "Ma-Deuce" during my time in service_ held belts aprox 9 yards-about 660 rds. of .50 cal (Ap-Tracer-the usual mix) so if pilot returned with both belts empty (both wing guns were triggered simultaneously-electrically I believe) they said he must have engaged in combat and went the "whole nine yards"- In the European Theatre- my favorite aircraft (ditto for Chuck Yeager) was the P-51 Mustang- and in the Pacific the Chance-Vought Corsair) believe Joe Foss and USMC Maj. Boyington flew those- the Germans had the best accuracy however with their ME-109 series- they had a most ingenious cannon or 8mm MG mounted through the nose of the prop hub- fired from an integral mechanism in the engine housing- eliminated the need for a prop synchronizator (?) and basically- wherever the nose of the ME was pointed- that was the cone of fire when the pilot hit the trigger- Want a great WW11 Battle of Britain book- find a copy of Pierre Clostermann's "The Big Show" -read it back in HS-loved it-all about the Spitfires and the advantage the Brits had with their radar in detecting the advancing Luffwaffe aircraft- Had "Fat Boy" Goering concentrated his bombing runs on the radar sites and the British bases first- and left London alone- 10 Downing Street might be call Downing Strasse today- My favorite place in DC is the Smithsonian Air Museum- was there summer of l995- when they brought in the Enola Gay- as I have a strong background in welding and metallurgy- some of the guys got me a permit pass to visit the restoration shop- they actually rebuilt many of the bolts and rivets- using the TIG process (my favorite welding technique- any metal that will pass electric current can be welding with TIG- also visited the WW1 and WWII aircraft displays- that's where I say the "cut-away" on the ME-109 that showed the unique gun mounting through the engine- and was trying to recall my HS German and interpret the wording near the radiator- a tall blonde haired gent (looked like the actor Kurt Jurgens- with a 10 year old boy next to him) said in perfect English- Perhaps I can help- and he translated it-then explained that he was a Luftwaffe Pilot- captured from the Channel in l943- sent eventually to Canada-married a Canadian gal- became a citizen-introduced me to his grandson- and as I am a private pilot (not military however-) invited me to join him and his family for lunch- German style - SteinHagen Lager-Bratwurst-Schnitzel- and we talked for hours about our love of flight- his favorite poem, like mine- is "High Flight" by John Gillespie McGee Jr.- (also a Canadian) Now- I am a man of my word- I'll send you the Bushmills, two bottles- need a safe address- although I have been known to be a safe tour guide-but being the poker player/gambler/connoisieuer/ raccoon-tuner I'd like to think I am (legends of the mind and all) I'll give you and you only SIR-this offer extends to no one else- not even my crab cakes and cigars tour guide Messer Destry Hoffard-a chance to go "double or nothing" on the Bushmills- as it stand now. I owe you two bottles- if you can accurately spot the typo error I have seen in Dave Riffle's book on the (Bad word I know-Model 12 Winchester) by May 19th (Canadian Veteran's Day) I will double it to Four-by you must accept in writing (via e-mail on this site) and this offer applies only to you- if another Trivia Meister gets it right on this site before the close of the day of May 19th- the offer is off- but you still get the two bottles you have won fair and square- If you accept, and you do not get the answer right- and you only get one shot- then you get Zero bottles of Bushmills via Fed Ex-and the answer can be verified- as old Casey "Stinky"Stengel once said- "You can always look it up somewhere" and the error I spotted can be verified- I take Trivia and History as seriously as Hillary Rodham Clinton takes her "shot" at being the next POTUS- difference is- next March I'll still be me-she'll be helping her husband shovellin' pigpoop back in Arkansas. Oh, and even though I agree with what the late Vince Lombardi once said about "being a gracious loser" should you accept this double or nothing challenge- and lose- I'll still buy dinner and drinks at the first PGCA event in which we meet up-Fair Enuf??
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:01 pm |
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The "whole nine yards" thing has been gummed to death. When all is said and done, it appears that no one knows where the term originated. See the attached as an example of the elaborate descriptions which have been put forward on the origin of the term.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_252.html
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:25 pm |
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Thank you, Dean, very kind of you...I actually bought this one this way...
BTW, we are retiring the Bulwer Lytton Award- Parker Division permanently and instituting the "Dwarf Star Award" to be awarded to the poster whose contributions contain the densest prose unsupported by appropriate punctuation yet containing the maximum number of dropped names and incorrectly attributed quotations. Regardless of tenure in the league, occasionally a superstar, a born champion, yes, a Titan springs upon the scene fully formed. If Dylan Thomas was right and those who burn brightest do not last the night, we don't have a moment to lose. I suggest you and I and Brother Day form a committee and make the Award before sunrise.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:55 pm |
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Well said Mr. Kaas ... may the most deserving Bloviator win. I trust you will post the committee's decision at your earliest discretion.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:25 pm |
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Oh my, Don. . . I am crushed 
Tears (of mirth) are streaming down my face.
. . . nonetheless, you kill me !
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:26 pm |
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| Don, it looks like a J&J/IB photo to me, hmmm?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:45 pm |
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| All parts of James Joyce are the good parts sir- ever done the Dublin pub crawl and ended up at Davey Bryne's?? James Joyce's favorite watering hole- just as Ernest Heminghway's was: Josie Russell's in Key West- the Floridita in Havana, and the Snug Bar in Ketchum. I'll sip a Guinness or two tonite in the honor of old Jamie Boyo-and also thank the blessed land of me ancestors (on me muther's side that be) for givin' us John Donne- without whose great poem about caring about our fellow men (even those with whom we seem to disagree at times) gave Hemingway the basis for one of his best titles- if you agree- if he had named one of his best short stories "Snow on top of some big tall Mt. in Africa" well you get the drift-
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 10:28 pm |
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| Does the DS Award include an enforced vacation from the forum, maybe thirty days or so?
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 11:23 pm |
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To paraphrase a Parker, Bill, in this case, Mrs. Dorothy Parker, "But for the substitution of one vowel, there goes Mr. Morin." It was hard to bring this back to Parkers, Dotty was the best I could do...remember too her great bon mot when waking up in bed hung over with a man whose name she could not recall, "What fresh Hell is this?" Such is our lot...
Dean- another photo of the CE Fox, a 2 barrel set found and acquired by private treaty as they say in England. C grade Foxes are the close relatives of my beloved D grade Parkers...
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