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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 12th, 2008 10:38 pm |
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No cute, cuddly little anthropomorphized critters were harmed in the harvesting of a few pesky little pa'tridge egg eating red squirrels I accomplished with my Daisy.
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Kenny Graft Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 03:13 pm |
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Bruce...I also own a realy scarce daisy...Mine is a Buzz Barton special, daisy no#195 It is NOT for sale at any price! That said ... a even trade may be in order...If anyone has a vhe 410 that still shoots with mordern dementions and must be in same overall condition as my daisy? After looking over all the threads atached to my inquiry, the subject has limited intrest. Its a advanced collectors market with few guns availible. I like a 410 3" .....it work better than expected at clay targets. I feel its an O.K. rabbit, dove or small critter gauge. I will keep looking for now.....(-: thanks to all...
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 03:30 pm |
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Kenny, we had a little fun with the small smallbore repartee' .
These .410 Parkers bring prices out of all proportion with their usefulness. I haven't seen one for under $15,000 for quite a while and even those in poor condition are being redone. Scarcity has driven the value and they are scarce because user interest in them was always low. They are fun to shoot at skeet and maybe some can hit close dove or quail with them but they are very limited as hunting guns. They are kind of cute because they are small and delicate.
I'm just as happy using a light 20ga and loading a light 3/4oz load in it. Get the same effect to me. I have a 5 3/4lb Parker D grade 20ga.
Expect to pay quite a bit for a 410 and most 410s were V grades, seemingly bought for the boy or to play at skeet with. People get worked up about them and hunt them down and pay big prices. Good luck.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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Lawyer Day sayeth: "...close dove and quail..."
Res ipsa loquitur.
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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 05:49 pm |
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Bruce Day wrote: User interest in them was always low. They are fun to shoot at skeet and maybe some can hit close dove or quail with them but they are very limited as hunting guns. They are kind of cute because they are small and delicate.
Good luck.
Yeah, so you guys with four tens should get rid of them as soon as you can. . . before the bottom drops right out on them 
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 06:04 pm |
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Wild quail?
Out here they are hard flyers and wild flushers. Once in a while you can get them to hold on the covey rise within 20 yards but not often and often as not I'm lucky to get a 25-35 yard shot. Singles will burrow in and hold closer. You get the quail mixed in with pheasant and you don't know what you have. Out on the shortgrass plains with Montezuma quail those birds really flush far and fast.
Looks like you are a fine shot with that many dove. I was having to make a lot of high fast shots at well above tree top level last September. I don't have a 410 but expect that I would not have done very well with one.
I tried to avoid the 410 controversy. I've shot a Mod 42 at skeet and it was kind of fun. I tried one at sporting clays and it was a whole other story and since I think sporting clays at least somewhat mimics hunting, well, I would not have done very well. Some shoot them well when they pick their targets well. I suppose I need to throw more lead.
I don't think the bottom is going to drop out on Parkers, if anything I suspect it will continue to climb, and the small bores will get even greater attention.
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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 07:28 pm |
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Believe me Bruce, my comment was made with tongue deeply embedded in cheek.
There's noplace to go but up with small bore Parkers, thank goodness and all the powers that be.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 09:18 pm |
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Plantation quail, the doves were wild though . Not much wild bird hunting around these parts anymore. You are absolutly right about bring careful with distance. I try to stay within 25 yards or so. It would be tough shooting for the little gun in your part of the country. Would have to move up to the 28 ga.
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Posted: Fri Jun 13th, 2008 09:44 pm |
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Suggest you bring at least a 20, and preferably a 16 or 12 for mid to late season. I used a lot of bad language with my 28ga , but it sure was a cute gun.
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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 02:14 am |
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Twenty-eights are very sensitive to bad language, Bruce. It's no wonder it didn't perform well for you. You have to speak tenderly to them and say encouraging things.
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 02:20 pm |
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Bruce...your are correct about the toooo-mutch part....$$*^%@~! Wish I would not be so mithodical in my collecting of things....I have this feeling of incompleteness. If it was about hunting only they could keep them 410-s. We have a great sporting clays course at our club. It has all the presentations some are close ,some are out there. Most can be shot with m/f 410 if your fast with it. I shoot about 50% with a 410 on a good day. My partner does a little better but he is also a skeet shooter. I never thout they could do this well. Last season I was shooting a fox 20ga 26" choked .014/.026 at 5lb-12oz. loaded with fiocchi vip 7/8oz 7.5# I could break 70+ of 100 ( all the stations) fairly regularly. I also shoot low gun as a hunter would. I have located a 28/410 set at 12,700.00 asking price. Have not talked to the seller as yet...they are closed for the week end, it may be sold already? I think this is on the way high end as one like it sold 2 weeks ago at 9550.00 I missed it by 2 hours...this may be the same one. as it has all same specs. If I hear...the prices of these small bore parkers are going throu the roof one more time!!!!....*^&%#@~! On the bright side....moma thinks parkers are the best investment there is and never wants me to sell any of them! Her 401 is in the crapper and mine is doing fine!!!! Plus I get to shoot-em...(-: thanks to all...Kenny Graft owner Shooting Stars Firearms in Ohio....shooting-stars@comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 02:35 pm |
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Kenny , for the price of an annual PGCA membership, you can have your business card printed in the Parker Pages and a link on the website. Why not join?
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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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I did join back in january.....I will get that included....thanks
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 09:01 pm |
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Here`s a nice 410 if you don`t mind it being refurbished...http://www.ivorybeads.com/site/default.asp?Page=54&FSL3_SL_8=parker&FSL3_RUNSEARCH=TRUE&FSID3=2500
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Posted: Fri Jun 20th, 2008 10:01 pm |
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What are you guys talking about? The .410 and 28 gauge are the perfect guns for all game at all ranges in all situations. Just ask Rich, he'll tell you all about it.
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RICHARD L ANDERSON PGCA Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 05:09 pm |
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Destry Its certainly nice to know that you have come to your sences and seen the light regarding the small bores . Nobody not even Dean Roming hunts Grouse with a 10 bore.
FWIW I have taken Mallards in flooded timber with a 28 back in the good old days of lead shot. 1oz of #6 does the trick esp at less than 20 yards .
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 05:27 pm |
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Murphy hunts grouse with a ten bore, as Father McCormack is my witness.
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Dean Romig PGCA Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 01:51 am |
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Jeeez Murphy, you didn't have to take Ruark so literally 
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