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Gregg Conley
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Posted: Mon Jan 23rd, 2006 05:15 pm |
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| Ebay # 7213856649 I know a lot of people need barrels. I have no connection or financial interest in these. Just thought someone in the group could use them to bring an "old reliable" back into service.
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Larry Frey
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 11:52 pm |
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I imagine like many here I started watching this auction figuring it would get quite interesting at the end. I was sure someone, possibly myself was going to pay way too much for these barrels. When I got home and checked tonight I find the auction was cancelled. I've never bought anything on ebay so I am curious is this typical of their auctions? Did someone contact the owner and make a deal on the side? I sent an email through the ebay website and asked a couple questions about the barrels for which the owner responded earlier today. I am very disappointed this didn’t run its course. Larry
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Josh Loewensteiner
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Posted: Tue Jan 24th, 2006 11:59 pm |
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| What happened? It was just starting to get fun.....
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:03 am |
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| It could have been a side deal or maybe ebay puled the plug, they don't like guns. How high did it go?
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:13 am |
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| Ebay would not have pulled the plug. This was just a greedy seller hooked up with a greedy buyer. It has happened before and will happen again. Be the high bidder and then there may be some recourse through ebay. Last edited on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:13 am by Bill Murphy
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Larry Frey
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:14 am |
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| It was up to $2025. the last I saw. They said the seller stopped the auction due to defects they didn't know about. Now I know how Eric felt getting screwed on that skeet gun deal. Larry
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Jeff Mulliken
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:27 am |
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Look at the guys other bids, he is a junk salesman, it's mostly crapola. I don't think he had a clue what he had. And I suspect he was so shocked by the prices that he pulled the auction so he could have time to find out what they are really worth and to avoid selling lower than he might....
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:28 am |
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| I was the high bidder when the auction was pulled...
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:38 am |
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I've bought a lot of stuff on Ebay ... In many cases the seller will reserve the right to end the auction early and sell the item locally if the item is being advertised in local newspapers or on other websites ... When that is the case, most sellers post that information in the description of the item or in some other place on their Ebay post.
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Larry Frey
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:41 am |
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The reply I received when I asked about the condition of the barrels was that they were purchased from Remington 30 plus years ago and were kept in a climate controlled environment ever since. They were supposedly never mounted on a frame thus the lack of a serial number.
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Greg Connors
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:51 am |
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I knew that auction would get 'ugly'!
According to the seller, he discovered several dings he was unaware of, so he pulled the auction.
Don, the price was at $2125 when he pulled it - was that you?
My opinion is he made a side deal; who would not have noticed dings? The guy gave an otherwise clear description, so he should have noticed them.
I hate side deals, yet every single time I list something on ebay I get multiple offers to make a side deal, so it's obvious people do it all the time.
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Greg Connors
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 12:51 am |
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BTW, Don, why were you even bidding 5 days out? 
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 01:18 am |
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I asked if there were any dings as I thought I noticed one on the left barrel in the photo of the end of the barrels. I may be way off but I thought it would take at least $3,500. to own these barrels. Anyone else care to venture a guess? Larry
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 01:40 am |
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| Please explain to me why a set of barrels are worth that much.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 01:46 am |
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| I just went back and looked at the photos again. He didn't even show a pic of the side of the lump where a serial number would be. I don't get it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 01:54 am |
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Hi guys... I had a couple of conversations with her today. After I emailed her twice I finally got a response. She is a very nice lady who really knows very little about guns but "is getting a comprehensive education". I had said that I noticed the left barrel or muzzle looked a bit elliptical and that there appeared to be a few dents or dings judging by the distortion in the reflection of light in the pictures. She said she doesn't have a trained eye but would look carefully and call me back. When she called me back she said her husband (a shooter) had looked the barrels over and did find five dings, one of which could be called a dent and that the left muzzle was indeed distorted. She said she would post the flaws on the auction so that nobody would feel misled. That was the last I heard from her. I have sent off a new e-mail to her asking what happened and will she reset the auction... the wait begins.
Maybe beanbaron got them... et tu pgc1877 ??
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 02:11 am |
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I agree with Frank - why would someone pay $3500 for a set of VH barrels?
Regarding the auction, note that she DID relist the auction, then promptly re-cancelled it. Kinda strange.
I also wonder why Remington would have a set of Meriden barrels lying around; I would have thought they would hav been used up. Unless of course they wer shelved due to the dents, and years later accidentally walked out in someone's briefcase.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 02:20 am |
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Here is the seller's description cut and pasted:
"This is a Parker Shotgun barrels (double) They are 16 gauge, 30" long, ejectors, choked full and full. Very rare "O" frame, perfect bores with proper runout J.G. Inspection markings, perfect matting Rib marked "Parker Bros. Makers, Meridian, CT. USA Vulcan Steel" They do not have a serial number stamped on them and may have never been on a gun. Would make a perfect 16/20 two gauge set as this set would rate excellent. Will be glad to answer any questions Shipping Insurance is recommended".
Does not sound like its written by a little old lady from pasadena.
I still don't get it.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 02:39 am |
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Frank, that is not the most recent description. In her most recent one she alludes to the fact that someone pointed out the "dings" and she wanted everyone to know.
Best, Dean
Incidentally, she is putting these barrels up for auction for a friend who bought a bunch of old parts from Remington. She really sounded genuine to me and I didn't just fall off the turnip truck this mawnin'  ..Been around awhile if you get my drift.
Best again...
BTW, I didn't see the auction get to $3500 and I would have been surprised to see it happen... but after that set of .410 Repro barrels went for $5500 a couple of months ago, "never say never" 
Again, Best
Last edited on Wed Jan 25th, 2006 02:44 am by Dean Romig
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 03:05 am |
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I don't doubt what you're saying Dean, its just that statements like "ejectors, choked full and full. Very rare "O" frame, perfect bores with proper runout J.G. Inspection markings, perfect matting Rib marked" have to be made by someone who not only is well informed but must have checked the item out carefully. That description didn't come out of thin air.
What about the guy who started this thread, who joined apparentl just for this one post right before the auction run up? You still around Bud?
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