My favorite configuration...16 "O" frames..

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

That's great in theory, but when a grouse or woodcock gives you .2 seconds in snot thick cover there is no such thing as letting them get further out. I do that with chukar, quail and ditch chickens

That's exactly what I was thinkink Andy. When I read Mills' response I thought "We need to take Mills grouse hunting. In the words of my Dear friend Craig Doherty after I failed to get off a shot on 3 straight grouse flushes "Shoot the f**** tree Dan"

Edit by John D: Could you please watch the language? This isn't Reddit - it is a gun collectors forum...