My favorite configuration...16 "O" frames..

[Mills]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

I have a nice condition Trojan 16 with 26" barrels which handles just dandy and fits me nice. Only problem with it for grouse is that it has two German chokes, both of them being GuttenTight I don't want to have them opened up, but I'm surprised how this basic Parker is one of my very favorites. I shot one woodcock with it, I had a pair of wings come down from the heavens.

For tight chokes, I just let the birds get a bit further. If that doesn't work, buy another gun and use the current one for something else.

[Bill Murphy]

Andy, when pheasant hunting north of Westminster, Maryland with a friend who only had a single barrel 37 Winchester, we flushed a woodcock in a wooded area. My friend duplicated your feat of shooting a woodcock completely out of his wings. We were high school buddies, but he was not into bird guns like I was. We went to college together and he left early to become a Ranger and to Viet Nam with a 75th Infantry unit. I left a year later, also for a two year Army hitch of a less heroic character. We had some great pack trips in western Maryland, but he found his outdoor life as a Park Ranger Superintendent in Wyoming and I stayed in Maryland and collected Parkers.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Mills Morrison

For tight chokes, I just let the birds get a bit further. If that doesn't work, buy another gun and use the current one for something else.

That's great in theory, but when a grouse or woodcock gives you .2 seconds in snot thick cover there is no such thing as letting them get further out. I do that with chukar, quail and ditch chickens

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Andrew Sacco

That's great in theory, but when a grouse or woodcock gives you .2 seconds in snot thick cover there is no such thing as letting them get further out. I do that with chukar, quail and ditch chickens

That's exactly what I was thinkink Andy. When I read Mills' response I thought "We need to take Mills grouse hunting. In the words of my Dear friend Craig Doherty after I failed to get off a shot on 3 straight grouse flushes "Shoot the f**** tree Dan"

Edit by John D: Could you please watch the language? This isn't Reddit - it is a gun collectors forum...

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Dan Steingraber

That's exactly what I was thinkink Andy. When I read Mills' response I thought "We need to take Mills grouse hunting. In the words of my Dear friend Craig Doherty after I failed to get off a shot on 3 straight grouse flushes "Shoot the f**** tree Dan"

I didn't want to insult him, but yeah, we need to take him out! I took a friend who is a clay target shooter grouse hunting for the first time. After about ten miles and HEARING three birds, he said, "Let me get this straight, you do this s*** for fun???"

Edit by John D: Could you please watch the language? This isn't Reddit - it is a gun collectors forum...