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HI Brush Buster, Took a "newly acquired" (last fall) VH out with my Springers, Parker, and Buckingham last weekend, missed two birds with the VH before I "patterened " it in the snow, verytight, will have to try the spreader loads. Did shoot one with a "shortened" now 28 inches, was according to the book 30 inch at one point open choked PH which made up for it, got three overall. Still trying for that Double pin. Happy new year, Chip