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I have used their 10 ga BBs and 2s loaded with bismuth, 1 1/4 oz, on geese this year out of a EH. One was killed in the air, head shot, with 2s. The other was wrecked but hit the ground alive. He was further and hit with BBs. Not anything to complain about. It's great ammo. You will become a fan as are many shooters and hunters on this site are. Try it. Polywad is excellent stuff as well. I use a lot of it.