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 Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 02:33 pm

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Bill,                                                                                                        

       Sorry For The Delayed Response, But I'm Scheduled For Shoulder Surgery Next Week And Am Trying To Tie Up Some Loose Ends. Tuesday Past I Drove To Albany, Ga. To John Garvin's Stock Shop , Met Two Super PGC Members David Purnell And Pat Dugan At Pat's Office For A Nice Visit. Drove To Augusta National Wednesday For A Day At The Masters.Yesterday I Drove To Ellijay,Ga. To Have a Top Lever Spring Replaced In The DH. I Will Post More Info. On The Frank Snow DH This Weekend[as well as photos]. My Original Post Of 09/08/08 Gave The Ser.# As Well As Some Intresting Response From Several Members.                        

                                                           Ron

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Bill,           

      Is There Any Intrest In Swapping Back ? If So, I'll Do My Utmost To Find A Nice Savage For You!                                      

                                      Ron

 

 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 03:49 pm

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Jim,                                                         

      I Appreciate Your Post And Did Not Look Upon It As A Sermon. I Will At Sometime Buy A Box Of Shells And Warm Her Up, However She Is Something Special [ at least in my eyes] And I Think Should Remain In Her Present Condition ,Which Is Absolutley Beautiful. Even Though She Is A Transition Gun And Not A Early Parker, I  Think Her Condition Is To Be Respected. Some Things Can Be Enjoyed To A Great  Level In Ways Other Than Than For Which They Were Originaly Intended.       

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                                                            Ron

                                                                                                       

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Ron, I hear you, I build and restore small boats for a hobby, jimsboatworks.com. Sometimes when I finish a boat I have an awful time putting it in the water. They get there eventually, but they don't get wet easily. Enjoy your 28VH, they are a joy. Jim

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 Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 10:28 pm

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Bill, Good Trade!! Jim

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 Posted: Fri Apr 10th, 2009 10:39 pm

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You'll never hear me agree with that, guns are made for shooting. Are you just not a shooting man?

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To James and Ron:  Actually, the 99 was not part of the trade.  When the young man said he would trade his Parker for a Savage Model 99, I asked him what amount of money would buy such a thing.  He replied that $130.00 would do the job.  He was using (correct me if this is not possible) 58 caliber brass from a Remington Zouave rifle to handload shells because factory 28 gauge shells would not fit in the chambers.  He had had about enough of that.  I found that the rim recesses were, in fact, undersized and would have to be modified to use factory ammunition. 

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By the way, Ron, I reread the thread about the pigeon gun.  It brought back memories of rooting through old research material to pin down a Parker's birth records.  Glad I could help.

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Destry,                                           

        I began Hunting At The Age Of Nine And Have Enjoyed Upland Birds [ quail and dove] And Classy English Setters For Most Of My Life. There Is Nothing More Beautiful Than A Light Gaited Setter That Seems To Float Across A Field Like A Morning Mist Pushed By A Gentle Breeze. I Have Also Made Several Trips To Arkansas For Waterfowl. Sadly, The Days Of Running Six Braces Of Dogs And Finding Twenty Covey Of Birds  Are Gone, As Are  Most Of The Good Handlers I Have Known. Although I Am Only Sixty [ and in excellent health] I No Longer Chase Birds As I Once Did. I Shoot Clays Five Or Six Times A Year And Enjoy Nice Shotguns.     

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                                                                  Ron             

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Those days are so long gone where I come from that I can't remember them. That kind of bird hunting was over before I was born really. Dad and Grandpa had their last good dogs about the time I was getting old enough to start following along and it was to the point it wasn't worth the trouble even then. We bird hunted a bit when I was in high school with a little male setter we had but you had to walk miles to find a small covey or two then you felt bad about shooting them because there was so few. I did a lot of preserve hunting on a friends place 'long about that time but never really warmed up to it much. Waterfowling was always my thing anyway, but the stories of the big bird hunts they made in the 50's and 60's made me wish I'd been around for them that's certain. Now even the geese are gone from home, the warm winters have shortened up the migration to the point we get very few anymore. They did have a decent winter flock this year because of the early snows in Northern Illinois but this was the first time in 10 years and it was still nothing like it was when I was a kid. Only the really old geese still know where Southern Illinois is, a lot of the birds just stay north on the rivers anyway as they don't know to go any further. One of the main reasons I moved this far north was to get back into decent fowling country. And they call this progress?

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When I was matriculating at the University of South Carolina in the late 1950s I was fortunate to have as my English professor one Dr. Havilah Babcock who often came to class dressed in his bird hunting togs (by the term "bird" of course I mean quail). We often talked about bird hunting both before, during and after class. I was also fortunate on several occasions to be invited to go on an afternoon hunt with him at the old Caughman and Lykes farms just east of Columbia who were good friends of my dad as well. Dr. Babcock was a superb shot and a real hoot to hunt with. I have autographed copies of all of his books which I treasure immensely. I read them over & over and can picture him in my mind's eye to this day.

 

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Where are professor Babcock's guns?  When leafing through the graded Fox records a few years ago, I ran into an entry that said something like "Lent to H. Babcock".  Sometimes "lent" has a different meaning than the strict definition.   In trying to recall the exact wording, I thought I remembered that it could have been initials only, but I'm pretty sure the name was spelled out.  Somewhere in my notes, I have the serial number of that Fox. 

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Bill: Dr. Babcock had a son, Havilah, Jr. or "Huck" as most knew him. He was somewhat of a neer-do-well as I recall, sometimes boat dealer, sometimes used car dealer. I think that was his only child, so I suppose that he got them. Lord only knows where they are now. I'm pretty sure that when I hunted with him he was carrying a Fox. My dad's gun was a Sterlingworth & If he wasn't with us that's what I hunted with.

 

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I can't find any mention of HB's middle initial in any of his books.  Does anyone know what his middle intial was?

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       I Believe I Read Years Ago That The Prof.'s Name Was Hudson Homer Havilah Babcock. I Could Be MIstaken.                              

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Bill,                                                                                           

       I Believe I Read Years Ago That The Prof.'s Name Was Hudson Homer Havilah Babcock. I Could Be MIstaken.                              

                                                                Ron                                                                                                                                                                                                                 


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