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Tom Pollock
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 01:48 am |
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Thanks, Tim - I appreciate the help.
Tom
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James Lastinger
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Posted: Tue May 20th, 2008 09:02 pm |
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Being a fan of the 28 gauge, I have an appreciation for the Ithaca. There are not many 28 gauge American sidebysides. If I remember correctly there were about 1800 28 gauge Parkers made (the exact number can be found in the Parker books).
Per discussion with the most notable Ithaca people, I think 800 is a good estimate of the combined total of Flues and NID 28 gauges.
After that there is a much smaller number of 28 gauge Iver Johnsons and Crescent Arms (although I have not been fortunate to own or even see a 28 gauge Crescent Arms).
From the member formerly known as Riprap.
James Lastinger
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Pete Hiatt
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 02:34 am |
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The Winchester 21 handles like a sow Superglued to a snow shovel.
The worst engraving is on the Foxes (except Ainsleys) and the 21
The Lefever had the best checkering on the higher grades. Parker had nice carvings
LC and Lefever had the best engraving on the highest grades (Invincible is 2-3 grades down from that)
Best handling are the early LC, Foxes, and smaller frame Parkers. The wide range and number of smaller frame Parkers is their biggest advantage.
The Ithica (Flues/NID) is the most butt Ugly American double closely followed by the 21 which is strong butt ugly
The best single shot trap gun (by far) was the Prussian Lindner.
The Flues was handy but weak, especially in the smaller guages.
In any of these guns, the finest quality was pre-WW1
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Albert Zinn
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 05:12 pm |
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Well, Mr. Hiatt - after so many reasonable and well founded observations such as these, there is obviously nothing more to be said...
Al Zinn
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Pete Hiatt
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 05:26 pm |
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| So very true...
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Robert Delk
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 07:34 pm |
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| I think the engraving of the Deluxe grade Smiths is kinda wierd compared to the Parker A1's that I have seen pictured. I have never seen either grade in the flesh and just got done comparing them in pictures in various issues of the DGJ and some auction catalogs that I have.The gold work on the Deluxes strikes a jarring note after looking at the easy flow of scroll on the Parkers and A2 and A3 Smiths.Not that it is poorly done ,just that it does not seem to be as artistically done.
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Robert Delk
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 07:55 pm |
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I just compared the Deluxe Smiths in Houtchins book with the 6 Parker A1s in the 2 part article in DGJ volume 11 issues-I still think the Parkers are better looking. I know this is a matter of taste but I think the gold work is a overdone on the Smiths. I like the tiny gold inlays on the Uncle Dan Lefevers better. They accent the scroll and don't over power it
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