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daryl middlebrook
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Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 11:34 pm |
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Frank, Before I say what I am about to say, You need to know that Doug Turnbull is a personal friend. That being said, Doug has an excellent reputation in the world of gun restoration. The trade journals speak highly of his work. TPS has a photo or two of his work. If you want quality, he's da man! If you are shopping price, look elsewhere.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 11:44 pm |
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| Price isn't the issue at all. I just didn't want the gun tied up for months. It's my understanding that all parts need to be removed from the receiver before case coloring. Travis did you remove all the parts yourself or did Turnbull's outfit do it?
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Travis Sims
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 12:14 am |
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Yes, I removed all parts. Thats no problem, remembering how to put them back is another problem.
Have you spoke with someone at Turnbulls? If so what kind of turn around did they give? I'm assuming that if it was long, is due to them doing all prep & polish and disassembly. Right?
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 12:28 am |
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| I had an email conversation with someone there a while back, can't remember the details but I'll look it up when I get to my computer at work tomorrow. I need to call them and have a conversation I guess. I've got the stock and sears out again now as I'm redoing my stock refinish. I'm not going to try to completely disassemble this thing myself. I don't want to screw it up. That is most of the cost and time with Turnbull.
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Eric Eis
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:03 am |
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| Frank talk to Pete at Turnbull"s, he is the shop foreman/manager (not sure what) but he will be honest with you in time frame. I sent my AHE 16 that had to have a new forend replaced which included the iron so ; fit new forend iron (previous owner had put a beavertail on the gun and welded metal to the forend latch for the retaining screw so iron was toast), engrave metal, new wood, inlet new wood , checker to A grade checkering, casecolor metal, and finish the forend, or in another way of saying; alot of work. This was two months (maybe six?) before the Southern Shoot, I asked Pete if I could have it for the shoot, he laughed and then he found out I was serious. He said he didn't think so but they would try. I called a couple of days before the shoot and he said they were trying but it didn't look good but they would Fedex to the shoot if they could finish it in time. Well it didn't show up and I thought Pete maybe had been giving me a line. I got home on Monday and that Thusday the gun showed up, they tried their best and missed by a couple of days. What better service can you ask for... Eric
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travis newman
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:10 am |
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| Well I'm glad your barrels turned out. Maybe you should post a before and after. I was glad to see that you liked them. Craftguard will polish your frame without applying a finish also.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:21 am |
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Travis N. It was a pleasure dealing with Brian. I was a little worried about the rib roll stamping and matting being polished off but it looks wonderful. I think I told you the story where his gunsmith was ill and couldn't cut the chokes without a major delay which actually gave me time to rethink about patterning the gun first. Brian said if whoever I had cut the chokes damaged the finish he would reblue at no charge.
Eric, I'm going to call and talk to Pete tomorrow as you suggest. We'll see what they have to say.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:22 am |
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| I'll take some barrel pics and put them up here in a day or 2.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:08 pm |
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 01:30 pm |
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| Looks nice Frank. I don't see any 'weep hole' to let the goo-goo drain out - is there one there?
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 02:10 pm |
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| No weep hole. Is that going to cause a problem? If so how do the do it on an O/U? Surely they don't leave a hole visable on the side do they?
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Greg Connors
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 02:14 pm |
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Good questions, I don't have answers!
I don't think the guns had weep hole when new, so I assume there is a difference in processes.
Anyone?
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Roger Whitfield
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 03:45 pm |
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| Greg, No goo-goo drain holes required for the "rust bluing" process, anyone drilling holes in the rib "may" be using a process that requires immersion in a hot bath solution that is "not" suited for double guns. JMHO
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Greg Connors
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 04:03 pm |
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Tanks Roger. I will add that my Del Grego gun has goo-goo holes, and I think I have read that if a fellow sent his Parker to Remington for a re-blue it also came back with goo-goo holes.
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 04:50 pm |
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| Well, Roger, you'd better have a hole in the short rib if you have even a minor leak in the ribs.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 11:29 pm |
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| I stuck my Galazan chamber gauge in the breech end and it measures halfway between the 2 1/2" and 2 3/4" marks so I guess these barrels are chambered for 2 1/2" shells. What shells would be best to use in these barrels and where is the best place to purchase? Appreciate any advice.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 11:38 pm |
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| How do you measure chamber length? In other words, is it from the very end of the barrels, or from the indention that the shell sits in?
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 11:47 pm |
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| I stuck the gauge in from the breech until it wouldn't go in any further and read the little mark. The tool has different blades for 10, 12, 16, 20, 28 and 410 gauge guns and will only go in so far.
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Roger Whitfield
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Posted: Thu Feb 16th, 2006 12:24 am |
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Well ya got me ta wonderin, Why didn't those silly brothers Parker just put the goo goo holes in the rib like they "needed" in the beginning... .... Are the holes for sumpin to get out or sumpin to get in?
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Posted: Thu Feb 16th, 2006 01:18 am |
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| Not to change the subject but just for fun I weighed my barrels which are stamped 3lbs 3oz on my postal scale and they weigh 2lbs 11oz. That's a half pound machined off in final fitting and choking. Both barrels are full choke. Just an observation. I'm sure some weight came off in my refinish also.
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