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Jeff Mulliken
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Posted: Wed Jan 18th, 2006 01:47 pm |
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| Sorry about the Travis confusion. Jeff
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travis newman
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 01:06 am |
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| I don't buff barrels but I worked with people that do, I have rust blued barrels for them, I have done damascus barrels for them also, I have sprayed the teflon coating, I've parkerized and a few others things associated with guns. They have been in business for about 40 years. I was trying to give the members of the PGCA a discount if you send barrels in to get reblued and will continue to try. These guys stand by there blueing. Craftguard Metal Finishing is the company. Website is http://www.craftguard.com. They will rust blue your double barrels (barrels only) including polishing for $135 plus return shipping. . They also give dealer discounts for those of you having a FFl. And you just never know I could be reblueing your barrels. If your do business with them, let them know that your from the PCGA.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 02:06 am |
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| hey maybe I should have the barrels and action Parkerized. just kidding. thanks Travis, looks worth investigating. Maybe I'll be the guinea pig. with the barrels on this gun I'd have nothing to lose. I didn't see where the 135.00 covers any polishing though.
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Larry Frey
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 11:56 am |
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| Travis, Are you saying that the people at Craftguard use a buffing wheel as part of their process when reblueing barrels? I've seen barrels that were ruined by mechanical buffing as it useually leaves them noticably wavey. This process is to be avoided at all cost. Larry
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Bill Zachow
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 01:15 pm |
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| During the late teens, early twenties, Parker began switching from spurred plates to flat plates. Just guessing, probably around the 200,000 serial numbers. My 170 plus thousand GH has a spurred plate and my 217 plus thousand VH does not.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 01:31 pm |
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| Let's not bust Travis too hard, I think he's trying to help. I'll call the place and ask a few questions.
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Gregory Dershem
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 02:20 pm |
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Bill Z: Both my 198 thousand and my 212 thousand VH's have spurred butt plates.
And Bill M: I spoke with Babe Del Grego just last week about rebluing some VH barrels, and he gave me a ballpark figure of just under $300.
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Travis Sims
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 02:22 pm |
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Frank..........have you decided on the 20ga. or have you already picked her up?
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Thu Jan 19th, 2006 02:40 pm |
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| Hi Travis. I am going to be going over to St. Pete either tomorrow or early next week and I will pick the gun up if its still there. I think I'm going to just do what needs to be done to get it into shooter condition at this time.
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Travis Sims
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Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2006 12:11 pm |
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Hi Frank,
Good luck with the 20ga. Not often you run across 2 Parkers in one gun shop. Especally with a V grade 20 bring a asking price more than a 12 Trojan. Wish I could find a gun shop like that! Around here you might find something interesting in a pawn shop. Maybe something they wouldn't know how to price, But thats rare!
Off to the grind, GOOD DAY ALL!
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2006 01:42 pm |
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| I am going to go out on a limb, here, but the best examples of bad pricing on the low side seem to be from serious gun dealers. They can't all know everything, and Parker information of any consequence is only six or seven years old. Just keep your nose to the ground and you will be rewarded.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2006 08:21 pm |
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| Travis, the 2 guns were in 2 different shops and the 12ga Trojan was more money than the 20ga VH because of condition and a little ignorance, the 20's kinda rough. The 20ga was actually in a Gun and Pawn Shop in Tampa (which prompted my earlier post on Pawn shops) and the Trojan was in St. Pete. I picked up the 20ga this morning and am going to post pictures in a while.
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Jeff Mulliken
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Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2006 09:06 pm |
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Frank,
Price be damned. Prequalify (with references) anyone your going to have work on it. It's not an Model 37 pump...and don't let anyone near that V20 with a buffing wheel.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Fri Jan 20th, 2006 10:17 pm |
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So Jeff, I shouldn't get the belt sander out yet?
I was thinking the same thing. Since I rescued the old girl she deserves some class work on the barrels. I was wondering about doing some of the basic buffing myself before sending it out. Anyone know what the hand method would be for a rough set of barrels? Please don't cringe at this but do they use progressive grits of fine sandpaper or some type of compound?
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Jeff Mulliken
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Posted: Sat Jan 21st, 2006 12:24 am |
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I've done it and it looked good to me but it was an old Flues, not a Parker 20 ga.
All very long longitudinal strokes with very fine grit wet/dry backed by a semi hard rubber backing 6" long and lots of elbow grease,wn to about 600 grit. The result had no ripples or recognizable lengthways marks.... But don't trust me any more than you trust the beltsander and buffing wheel crowd.
Someone who really knows how to do it right should respond.
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daryl middlebrook
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Posted: Sat Jan 21st, 2006 12:39 am |
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| Frank, Please remember the bros. Parker made less than 10% of their masterpieces in 20 ga. Go first class! You owe it to your grandchildren.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Sat Jan 21st, 2006 07:20 pm |
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| Can barrels alone be shipped without an FFL?
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Posted: Sat Jan 21st, 2006 08:25 pm |
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Frank DAmico wrote: Can barrels alone be shipped without an FFL?
Yes, indeed...no FFL required.
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Frank DAmico
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Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 06:01 pm |
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Got my barrels back from Craftguard today (they actually came in yesterday but I was out of the office) and they look beautiful. I am going to have to get the receiver recolored now, No way I can leave this alone. Any suggestions on who to send it to? I am aware of Turnbull and Merrington but would like someone a little faster if possible but of course I want it to be done well. Are there any options out there?
thanks
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Travis Sims
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Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 10:36 pm |
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I had Turnbull do mine. Also I did all the polish and prep work, all they had to do was stick it in the magic oven. Turn around was maybe, and no more than 10 days. I explained to them that I wanted to take it to Kansas on a huntin trip. Needless to say they came through on there end. I know theres others that do this, but Turnbull has so much experience coloring Parkers. I have had a Ithaca colored by someone(won't say)in Montana that was cheaper. However I didn't get any color other than straw. I vote Turnbull! JMHO
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