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Where is number 170703? An interesting history
Unread 04-02-2012, 11:24 PM   #1
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Question Where is number 170703? An interesting history

This is my first post, as I joined the association just a few months ago. I bought my first Parker, a very nice Plain Twist underlifter 12 ga, made in 1877, about a year ago. Since then, I have added six more Parkers to my collection. I guess I caught a bit of Parker fever. So, I am always on the lookout for Parkers or related items.

This last weekend I went to a local gun auction warehouse sale and picked up an interesting item. It is a beaver tail forearm (not a Parker original from what I can tell) for a D Grade ejector gun, serial number 170703. It has a gold oval inset into the wood, just above the release lever with the name “Will J. Reid, Long Beach, CA” engraved on it. According to the Parker Serial Number Book, no.170703 was a DHE 12 ga. , with a straight grip, and 34” bbls. Made about 1915. Do any of the members own this gun, or know its whereabouts?

In my business of selling military antiques, I usually do a lot of internet research on different named artifacts such as medals, swords, Civil War groupings, etc. So, I thought this would be an interesting research project. I found out that Will J. Reid was President of the Hancock Oil Company, and Vice-President of the California Funding Corporation and General Insurance in the Long Beach area. He was a founding member of the Cerritos Gun Club, and the Chairman of the Board, and President of Ducks Unlimited in 1942/43. Born in 1889 in North Dakota, he died in 1956. I found a great article on the history of the local gun clubs of Southern California (yes, contrary to popular belief, we do have a hunting history here!). You can see the information at:

http://longbeachstudies.lbcc.edu/pdf...ach%20Area.pdf

In viewing that article, I was astonished that on the first page, there is a photo of some of the local club members, and Will Reid is pictured with his Parker! You can plainly see the gold name plate on the forearm (he is second from the left) and the added leather piece at the bottom. The gun shows a lot of wear around the grip area, and most of the finish is gone from the barrels. You can also see what looks like a thick recoil pad on the end of the stock. They all look very dapper in their matching white pin striped pants, shooting sweaters, and brimmed hats. Also, later in the article there is a great photo of when Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig came to shoot ducks with the one of the clubs. Reid is pictured again, next to Babe Ruth, with his Parker facing out, showing the gold name plate again. I wish this piece could talk! See the photos posted below.
Maybe Mark Conrad can give us some info on number 170703? If it was ordered by Will Reid, or ? Obviously from the specs, it was a great duck gun or trap gun.
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When the gun club property was sold, the buildings were moved to a park in Long Beach, now known as the Will J. Reid Scout Park, for the Boy Scouts to use as a camping ground. There was also a high school in Long Beach named after him. And, a charitible foundation in his name, organized for scholarships. He also wrote a history of the gun club and several articles in Ducks Unlimited literature. This photo was in the article also.
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Unread 04-03-2012, 08:48 AM   #3
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Richard,

That is an awsome find and wonderful research. Gott love the guns int he cover picture of that article. 4 parkers and 4 LC smiths. They didn't mess around.

And the photo with Babe Ruth in it is priceless. I sure hope the gun is out there somewhere still. It would be nice to put it back together.
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I have said many times and thought aboiut it many more, we need a service/website to reunite parkers with their barrels, hang tags,letters from PB, etc. What a beautiful find and research job.

i have dozens of hang tags and letters with serial numbers that need tobe shared or even owned by the actual gun owners.
i bet you all do as well.
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Richard,

That was one heck of a great first post!

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Wonderful provenance. Provenance of my Parker guns is my favorite part of collecting. Initials or names on a gold shield are the first part of much provenance.
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I wouldn't be so quick to say "not a Parker original, from what I can tell". It wouldn't surprise me in the least to find out this was a special order forend. Send for a PGCA Research Letter on that serial number... you may be surprised.
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Sir,
I agree with what Mr Romig said. Do not be too quick to dismiss this as Parker or not. I have one even stranger than that one. Look in the picture with the Babe. The gun next to the man holding yours has the same type of forearm. Look closely. Trap shooters wanted anything that would give them the edge.
Very cool piece and history. Thank you for sharing.
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Can anyone tell how many Parkers are in those pics? In the one with Babe, the guys on the left and right ends have Parkers. Not sure on the rest, but #'s 2 and 3 from the left may be also.
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I believe the gent third from the left is non other than Lou Gehrig.
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