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04-01-2020, 08:03 PM | #3 | ||||||
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Sounds like you are getting set up for a good screwing.
The situation is surely unacceptable. Stock dimensions are what they are. Without question. And if something like that is not advertised or advertised inaccurately, then there is an issue. If cast is not mentioned in a description. It should be safely assumed that it is neutral. And a non-firing inspection period usually does imply that a return for any reason is allowed. And usually shipping is not part of the return. So worse case, the buyer looses on shipping both ways. I hope that things work out for you though. If not, I am sure you will have recourse theough GI. I know they take stuff like that seriously.
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04-01-2020, 08:12 PM | #4 | ||||||
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This person is a member her and I trusted him. I’ll take every recourse starting tomorrow and that includes calling him out on this site. He has bought and sold enough guns to know about cast of a stock.
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04-01-2020, 09:21 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Gerry don't hold me to this but I seem to recall that Guns International has some sort of a policy in place to ensure that these transactions are handled appropriately. Whether I am right or wrong on that along the same lines I would certainly suggest that you contact Dave or Deb Powell who own GI and discuss the situation with them. Surely they would have some valuable insight on your situation. They're good people.
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04-01-2020, 09:26 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Go to the FAQ,s and there is a return policy there.
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04-01-2020, 09:51 PM | #7 | ||||||
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I am calling them first thing in the morning. Can't believe this is happening. Here is a shot of the measuring of the cast on which is more than 1/4" and is clearly seen with the naked eye. In fact, I noticed it as soon as I threw the gun to my shoulder. Again, it was clearly agreed to in writing there was a three day non-firing inspection period and he was notified within an hour of receipt of the gun. There were some other issues as well but I would have dealt with them, like the drop at comb was stated as 2 1/4" and it actually measures 2". Was told the finish was original but it has had coats of finish added. Those were bad enough but a left hand stock!
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04-02-2020, 01:49 AM | #8 | ||||||
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I realize this don’t remedy the situation, but did you look under the trigger guard to see if the number stamped in the wood matches the serial number ?
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04-02-2020, 06:37 AM | #9 | ||||||
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The gun in question is a Francotte 20E. There is no question the stock is original to the gun however the letter from Bob Beach on this gun which is in the records at Griffin and Howe indicates original stock dimensions were 1 1/2 X 2 3/4 X 14 1/4. In his listing, and on the phone he said the dimensions now were 1 1/2 X 2 1/4 X 14 1/4 and that he felt the change was merely a transcription error. No mention on the order or by the seller that it was cast on. I was fine with 2 1/4" of drop at heel so I would have been good if it were simply an error. However when I measure the stock it actually has 2" of drop, not 2 1/4 and is cast on. A layer of finish has been added to the stock (can easily see brush or rag streaks in the finish) and the wrist area is very dull probably caused by the bending process the gun has gone through and thus the reason for the added finish. I have agreed to pay for the shipping both ways to get out of this mess, but he flatly refuses saying he will return only $300 to help pay for the bending of the stock. As we all know bending a stock is tricky at best and might work, might not. The bend might stay, it might go back to the original cast on position. Or, it might crack! Not a gamble I'm willing to take. Gun is nice other than this issue and would make some lefty a very nice upland gun. Just not something I'm willing to deal with.
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04-02-2020, 06:45 AM | #10 | ||||||
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It really bothers me every time I read of this type of transaction. I have bought guns from well known dealers that were described as "untouched original condition" only to find that they were not original condition guns. Chambers lengthened, bulged barrel repairs and wood re-finishes are three that come to mind. I am a businessman. I have been successful by being honest, forthright and a person of integrity. I wish those principles were followed by everyone but the greed factor often seems to win out. It really bothers me and I am just about to the point of only buying Parkers from friends that I know and trust.
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