shot-shell question

[gman]

Has anyone run these shell through a 2 5/8 non-damascus Parker steel barrel gun (trojan,Vulcan,special, Titanic etc) I wonder how light they really are and what the pressures are.
Thanks

[Autumn Daze]

Eric, I have shot those through fluid steel Parkers with no problems. They are a nice load. Enjoy!

[Dean Romig]

I've shot them a lot in Damascus Parkers, one with 2 5/8" chambers on a 1 1/2 frame at skeet probably 150 rounds a week.

I've heard they can be a bit disappointing in very cold weather.

[Roundsworth]

I used those shells in my 'C' Grade Marlin Standard Model pump. The Standard was an extremely high quality repeater, but had some design flaws that can render them unsafe if not kept clean. The FeatherLites (FL) were easy on the gun.

[J.B. Books]

Low recoil does not always equate to low pressure. A minimum dram 7/8 ounce (26 gram) load will be gentle on the wood and the shoulder. Published pressures on factory ammo are hard to find. Often times ammo makers use small amounts (= less $) of fast burning powder. This holds costs down but brings pressures up. If chamber pressure is a concern it is best to shoot one's own reloads. In the 80's before I knew much of anything I ran all kinds of stuff through 1913 Trojan 12ga. Lots of 1 1/4 factory loads and reloads and some early 1 3/8 ounce 2 3/4" Bismuth factory loads. The gun remains tight as drum. Most fluid steel 2 frame 12's will take whatever you feed them without trouble.

[gman]

I certainly don't need anything else lowering my scores. They at least look re-loadable from the outside.

[Bruce Day]

Here's a friend who owns the Admiral Fletcher gun shooting the UltraLite Winchester loads, which are little stouter than the very low speed loads you pictured. He usually shoots in the 80's with this gun and the UltraLite loads , 90's with a Perazzi and a bit stouter loads. The Fletcher gun is a light damascus 1 frame A grade 12, so this response is not on point to your question, but close. The Adm Fletcher gun is the one with an engraved shorebird scene and sailing ship offshore, has the grip cap engraved as F F Fletcher, Fleet Adm, USN , and anchor chain around the skeleton butt.

At the Duluth Puglisi shoot a couple years ago.

[Bill Murphy]

I do not agree with Jent's assessment of the performance of these loads, but I have experienced off sound results with this load. I do believe that they are below acceptable performance level because of the off sound characteristics, just not as bad as Jent describes . I have also heard somewhere that these loads are indeed low pressure loads.

[Ed Blake]

I called Winchester about these loads a few years back and they told me they are right at 6,500 psi. As far as breaking targets, they do just fine in my experience at skeet and most 5-stand distances. They are ideal for back yard clay games. People find the low report and lack of recoil odd.

[Bruce Day]

Originally Posted by Ed Blake

I called Winchester about these loads a few years back and they told me they are right at 6,500 psi......

Which would be 4000 psi below the Parker calculated service loads for the gun.