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Unread 01-06-2017, 11:39 PM   #1
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Handled a DH Grade, serial number match throughout, 30 inch barrels, straight stock, 2 frame, stamped with a 3 above serial number and D below on water table, 2 stamped in appropriate location for frame size, barrels stamped with 4-5 and 3. Gun has no safety, Is this a Pigeon Gun or him I missing something?
Seems very light for a Pigeon Gun. Gun not mine so I can't publish serial number. Serial number would indicate production be in the 1905-06.
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Unread 01-06-2017, 11:57 PM   #2
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Commonly called a live bird gun. Depending on the shooter, barrel length would range from 30" to 34" and some even longer. Have a friend that has a 2 frame BH with 30" titanic barrels in same configuration from same time frame.
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Being a 2 frame, i would not expect it to be all that light. It has to be at least 7 lbs or so.
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Scroll down about 1/3 here for a long list of Parker Live Bird and Inanimate Target guns, with weights and dimensions, courtesy of John Davis
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...3d3Eno/preview

Maximum weight allowed then was 8#

Sporting Life, John L. Lequin. secretary of the Interstate Association, writes us under date of Feb. 25 1898 as follows:
“We have received inquiries from most all directions recently from a number of shooters who are probably desirous of entering the Grand American Handicap next month, concerning the weight of guns, and whether the handhold and recoil pad will be counted as a part of the gun when weighed. The subject has been placed before the Tournament Committee of the association, which committee has decided that the guns will be weighed naked."

That "nekked" would be minus Heikes Hand Guard, Rowley Pad, or recoil 'boot'.

The Baker Gun Quarterly, Volume 5, No. 3, May 1900 had an article on the weight of Trap/Pigeon guns used by Capt. A.W. Money (8 pounds - Money used a Greener, Smith, and at least two [eventually stolen] Parkers), C.W. Budd (7 pounds 14 ounce Parker), H.D. Bates (Winner of the 1900 GAH at Live Birds; Parker 7 pounds 13 ounces), R.O. Heikes (7 pounds 15 ounce Parker but after the GAH at Live Birds he went back to his Remington hammerless and won the 1st GAH at Targets), J.S. Fanning (7 pounds 15 ounce Smith), W.R. Crosby (7 pounds 12 ounce Baker), and Col. A.G. Courtney (7 pounds 14 ounce Remington CEO).

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Parker collectors would love to see the serial numbers of those famous guns.
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