1904 CHE shooter I am considering

[King Cobb]

I currently have in my possesion a 1904 CHE 12 gauge 2 frame shooter. It has titanic barrels that have been monoblocked and with screw in chokes that was originally 30 inches. The original barrels were blown out, but the monoblocking appears to be well done from my comparisons to others that have been done.

The price is a good one for a CHE. The engraving is more of the early version that is very similar to D's.

It has a pad on the end with the widow peak still visible and the forearm has been rechecked to repair/cover up damage or it may be a new well fitted piece.

I will take more pics, but it is a nice price on a shooter C.

[Twombly setters]

a cheap gun in any grade is quickly overshadowed by quality.

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Bill Holcombe

It has titanic barrels that have been monoblocked

If it has been sleeved, how do you know it has Titanic barrels? Because the top rib inscription says so?

[Fishtail]

Has the forend been replaced?

[Phil C]

It does look like a D grade, what is the difference in the engraving between this C grade and a D ?

[King Cobb]

I do not know if they are actually titanic or not. The rib that is on them says titanic and the bluing looks correct.

The forend has either been replaced or heavily recheckered, it definitely isn't checked correctly.

I fully realize that condition is important, but I struggle to buy old DHs, a quality CHE is not something I could afford without selling a lot of funs.

[King Cobb]

Originally Posted by Phillip Carr

It does look like a D grade, what is the difference in the engraving between this C grade and a D ?

It has finer detail than a D grade. It also has wrap around checking on the wrist as well as 5 birds on the floor plate as opposed to 4. The scroll work is better as well.

The late 1800 and early 1900 Cs don't have a lot of difference from Ds from what I have seen unless they were rondells.

[David Noble]

Are the barrels still 30 inches? I'd like to see pics of the muzzle and dolls head area.

[King Cobb]

Originally Posted by David Noble

Are the barrels still 30 inches? I'd like to see pics of the muzzle and dolls head area.

Barrels are now 26".

Will take some pics tomorrow.

[Ken Hill]

Bill,

I look and price British guns. The sleeving process has come a long way. The joint is practically invisible using TIG welding techniques. Usually they will use the rib from the old barrels. Even guns with an invisible joint are heavily discounted and hard to resell.

Ken