Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Non-Parker Specific & General Discussions General Discussions about Other Fine Doubles

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unusual engraving
Unread 12-09-2015, 07:54 PM   #1
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 491
Thanks: 2,623
Thanked 1,729 Times in 280 Posts

Default Unusual engraving

I thought this engraving was unusual to be on a single barrel trap gun. Has anyone ever seen a beaver engraved on a shotgun before?
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ithaca5.jpg (307.2 KB, 19 views)
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-09-2015, 08:28 PM   #2
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,049
Thanks: 529
Thanked 19,631 Times in 4,962 Posts

Default

Ithaca?
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:00 PM   #3
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 491
Thanks: 2,623
Thanked 1,729 Times in 280 Posts

Default

Yes Brian it is a Ithaca grade 5. It was made in 1915, the second year of the SBT production.
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:13 PM   #4
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,852
Thanks: 38,454
Thanked 35,768 Times in 13,108 Posts

Default

Wayne, do you know who it was made for?





.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:28 PM   #5
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 491
Thanks: 2,623
Thanked 1,729 Times in 280 Posts

Default

No I don't know who ordered it. There are British proof marks on it. I guess the owner traveled from here to Europe or it was ordered new and shipped there. I need to get a letter from Walt Snyder to maybe figure it out.
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:43 PM   #6
Member
Dean Romig
PGCA Invincible
Life Member
 
Dean Romig's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 32,852
Thanks: 38,454
Thanked 35,768 Times in 13,108 Posts

Default

I hope Walt will be able to help you. I know he has some Ithaca information but he told me that he sent the majority of his Ithaca research material to the Buffalo Bill Museum. When I asked him when they would have it all digitalization and ready to produce research letters his reply was "Sometime in the very distant future." But of course, Walt may still have information on your SBT.






.
__________________
"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."

George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
Dean Romig is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dean Romig For Your Post:
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:46 PM   #7
Member
WHO
PGCA Member
 
Wayne Owens's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 491
Thanks: 2,623
Thanked 1,729 Times in 280 Posts

Default

Thanks Dean, I didn't realize he was sending the info to them.
Wayne Owens is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 12-09-2015, 09:47 PM   #8
Member
Double Lab
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Daryl Corona's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,932
Thanks: 17,988
Thanked 7,672 Times in 2,927 Posts

Default

[QUOTE=Dean Romig;183066]Wayne, do you know who it was made for?



I'm guessing Theodore Cleaver. Sorry, could'nt help it.
__________________
Wag more- Bark less.
Daryl Corona is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Daryl Corona For Your Post:
Unread 12-10-2015, 01:36 AM   #9
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,598
Thanks: 3,327
Thanked 13,129 Times in 3,476 Posts

Default

no, it was made for Ward. He left it to the Beaver
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 12-11-2015, 05:37 PM   #10
Member
Kevin McCormack
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,246
Thanks: 1,712
Thanked 4,267 Times in 1,192 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Owens View Post
I thought this engraving was unusual to be on a single barrel trap gun. Has anyone ever seen a beaver engraved on a shotgun before?
No, but about 25 years ago I passed up buying an AHE Damascus 12 ga. that had an otter floating on its back in a kelp bed trying to crack open a clam with some sort of rock or stone. A Winchester collector named David Bichrest from Maine had taken it in trade against a scarce lever action, and said he was not having much luck selling it because of the 'dangerous' Damascus barrels. I think the asking price back then was around $2500 (*sob!*).
Kevin McCormack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Kevin McCormack For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:10 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.