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Unread 08-24-2014, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default Sherman Bell tests in which DGJs

I am wanting to read his tests relating to safety of shooting Damascus. Can anyone tell me the DGJ volumes to buy to read these articles?

Thanks, I have tried to find it on here and Google, but was unsuccessful.
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King,

I'll try to look them up for you. In summery he took a 1900 GH #2 Frame with Damascus barrels and fed it increasing pressure loads until the barrels released/exploded. They became unwrapped at the breach along a line from the extractor pin hole and the doll head extension hole at about 30,000+ psi. The other barrel held together at that pressure but let go at about 31,400 psi. I sent Sherman Bell a 1900 VH #2 frame and the results were the same.

I started shooting Damascus with smokeless after an article in Guns and Ammo by Ross Seigfried some time in the late 1980's. After much trepidation and caution I now shoot any modern load at reasonable velocity and shot load. Let's say a 12 gauge load of 1oz at 1200 psi or 1 1/8 oz at 1180 fps. I shoot an 1881 lifter Parker with Twist barrels with off the shelf 1 oz loads at sporting clays weekly and have for some years without incident. The short and long of it in my humble opinion is that if a Parker has not been messed with it is safe to shoot any shell of reasonable velocity and weight.
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harry i agree completely with you..i wish i could have put it in words like you did..thanks....charlie
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After following the wisdom of those more knowledgable than me and in perticular, Bruce Day, who calmed my nerves by shooting these beautiful old Parker's. If I could find powder I would load for Damascus and Twist at under 8000 Psi. If I could a afford RST shells I would shoot nothing else
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Thanks, I have the basics of what he did, but I haven't found a good synopsis of which issues did what. But I did here:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...59371&start=40
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So you get dressed up like ralphie in a Christmas story. Motorcycle face mask gloves heavy coat Waddle out to the back yard , hold the gun at arms length turn your head and pull the trigger. Tell us what happens or better yet post a photo of you all dressed up, preferably when the temp is at least 90.

That's what I did.
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Bruce, it looks like temps should be right for more testing this afternoon.
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Lol I'm not worried, I am just interested in reading it.
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Volume 16, Issue 2, Summer, 2005
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The winter of 1999 was one of them- I think.
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