New to Site w/old Parker

Phil Leggett · 01-20-2010, 08:19 PM

Hello from the desert of southwestern Arizona. I hope you guys can help me figure out what I've got on my hands. Yes I read your web site and retrieved most of the pertenent information. I was hoping to be prepared with nice pictures but due to the resolution setting on my camera they're not clear when enlarged.

So, here's what I've got:
16 Ga Parker Bros Side-by-side Hammerless
Frame - O
Weight of Barrel - 37
Grade - P (1)
Barrel - Twist
Ejector - Yes
Serial # - 67057

There are many dates on this thing
Front stock - Pat'd Mar 26, 1878
Barrel - Pat'd May 11, 1878
Receiver has three dates: Mar 15, 1875 (one side), Pat'd Jan 15-Aug 16, 1887 and below that is May 7-Oct 8, 1889 (opposite side from first date)

It also has a breach lever that's curved to the right instead of straight. There's a bird dog with a bird in its mouth on the butt plate.

I'll try to take some better pictures to post but know that the wood is in sad shape (I did post a picture of that and others that distort when enlarged).

Any help you can give would be much appreciated.

Bruce Day · 01-21-2010, 08:56 AM

Mr Rat:

Phil Leggett · 01-21-2010, 10:10 AM

Sorry if I offended you. My name is Phil Leggett. How do I change it? I visit many forums and have never seen that before.

Bill Bolyard · 01-21-2010, 12:24 PM

Bruce,

Real Classy, I am sure you could have been a little more, how do we say less offensive. Phil the board adopted the use of real names to add a little civility amongst the people posting. It seems to have helped most of the time.

Bolyard

Robert Rzepiela · 01-21-2010, 12:35 PM

Don't feel bad. You are only the 20th person who did so in the last 3 months....

Opening Day · 01-21-2010, 12:57 PM

Send John Dunkle a pm and he can change the name for you

Coach · 01-21-2010, 01:06 PM

Phil,

67057 is not listed in the Parker ID & Serialization book. What makes you think that it has ejectors? Try posting a pic of the breech end of the barrels and the front of the receiver.

It looks like your gun is in need of a complete set of wood but the metalwork seems in relatively good shape. How long are the barrels?

Looks like you have a pretty good project gun there.

Carl.

Harry Collins · 01-21-2010, 01:12 PM

Phil,

Welcome to the PGCA forum. Your Parker PH 16 gauge has seen alot of use. If it were mine, anything done to restore it would depend upon the condition of the barrels. Are they pitted? How deep are the pits? Do the barrels have dents, how many and how deep? What it boiles down to is could the gun be shot and used. There were many PH's made and they are low grade. Looking at what you have shown us you might be able to sell it for about $250. To replace the stock would cost about $1,000. The stock can be repaired for much less than that, however we must go back to the barrels to know if the gun can be used. Otherwise hang it above the fireplace. The curved top lever was left over from hammer gun production. It allowed the gun to be oppened with a cocked hammer. Please give us some better pictres and tell us about the barrels.

Kindest, Harry

Double Play · 01-21-2010, 02:06 PM

Harry,
I doubt anything could be done to save the wood. It appears as though pieces are missing and from what I can tell from Phil's photos the wood is well below the metal. You are correct that the condition of the barrels will determine if the gun is worth restoring.

Phil Leggett · 01-21-2010, 02:32 PM

If I understand terminology, the ejector is the "T"-shaped mechanism between the breaches that moves out when the gun is opened, right?

Haven't measured the barrels yet. Will do this afternoon.