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Unread 10-14-2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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This 10 ga gun with 28 1/8 inch barrels is very like one that Austin Hogan had as a wall hanger in his collection. Same ga and barrel length and # 2 frame size and grade but without the checkered knob. My question is this; is this a Parker found? I have not seen one like it on this web site. Please advise, David Hamilton I don't seem able to attach an image! Please advise again.
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There is a picture in the albums titled: Parker 6164 But I don't know how to link it.
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Unread 10-14-2013, 12:05 PM   #3
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Thanks Robert! Hope you enjoyed the Saturday shoot.. It was great but I had to leave after lunch and missed the meeting. What I left out is that the gun was made in 1875 and it is a 0 grade with the stock numbered to the gun. The forearm has two checkered diamonds and an arrow shape in the back. David
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May we please see the rest of the checkering of the grip area and the forend from different angles?
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I too would like to see additional photos of that checkering. Wrist and forend. My initial thoughts are that it was not done by Parker. But I will not jump the gun without seeing more.
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Thank you for your interest. I have added more pictures to the album but continue in the dark about how to link them. The look and feel of the checkering is that it is very professional and that it required sophisticated equipment to make those concentric cuts.
There is little likely hood that a purchaser of a 0 grade gun would pay to have a third party do this. My surmise is that it was done as practice and experiment by Parker. There is no letter available. The forend is a Parker standard but did not appear on 0 grade guns. Everything else aside it is a bit peculiar but enjoyable and is a fully functioning gun that I shoot. Thanks Dean and Dudley! David
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David, to learn how to post pictures go to www.parkerguns.org and then the FAQ page. At the very bottom there are two links to videos on how to resize and post to this forum. They run a bit slow so you need to allow some time for them to load and begin to run. I suggest you watch the re-size on first.

Here are two links:
  1. Shows how to get a picture that is to large to upload resized so it will.
  2. Shows how to upload a picture into a forum thread.
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Thanks for putting up the other photos in the thread. It is my opinion that the checkering is in no way original to the gun or factory work. The pattern, especially on the forend is too far of a departure from the standard. Also, an O grade of this early period would typically not have any checkering.

However, the biggest telling sign is the condition of the checkering against the rest of the gun. The finish of the metal, and even the signs of old age in the forend wood are evident. But the checkering looks much more recently cut.
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