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Looks like I got the loads mixed up that I posted.There is no extra gas seal used in the 1 1/8 oz load which would change the stack height.As other posters have suggested you just need a bit more filler and adjustment to your loader.If using the bp1044 wad in place of the sp10 there may be a little difference in filler needed.I do also use a brass star pre crimper which may help with new hulls.They have sharper corners than the original mec.Looks like you are winning by the last photo.Sorry for any confusion.Jeff
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I do also use a brass star pre crimper which may help with new hulls.They have sharper corners than the original mec.Looks like you are winning by the last photo.Sorry for any confusion.Jeff
I put an 1/8" washer between the MEC star crimper and the frame of my VersaMec to get a deeper and more defined fold to the crimp.
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Looks like I got the loads mixed up that I posted.There is no extra gas seal used in the 1 1/8 oz load which would change the stack height.As other posters have suggested you just need a bit more filler and adjustment to your loader.If using the bp1044 wad in place of the sp10 there may be a little difference in filler needed.I do also use a brass star pre crimper which may help with new hulls.They have sharper corners than the original mec.Looks like you are winning by the last photo.Sorry for any confusion.Jeff
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Is there a concern about so much shot being well in front of the wad cup?
It seems like it could lead to more deformed shot and less uniform patterns.
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Is there a concern about so much shot being well in front of the wad cup?
It seems like it could lead to more deformed shot and less uniform patterns.
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I’ve never noticed a problem in the 10 or 8 gauge guns filling in the shot cup a good bit with spacers . They break targets at a pretty decent poke and take down feathered targets at a pretty good distance .
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Is there a concern about so much shot being well in front of the wad cup?
It seems like it could lead to more deformed shot and less uniform patterns.
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This is my reality. 30" circle at 40 yards. 1905 Remington 1894 10ga, 30" barrels with .045 and .046 choke shooting Fed hull 2 7/8", Win 209 primer, 19.3 gr Red Dot, SP10 wad, 1/2"+ fiber filler wad in shot cup, 1 1/8 oz Lawrence magnum #6, fold crimp. Patterns are 92/93%

I have a Lefever G 10 that shoots about the same, My Parker NH and H&R D grade shoot mid to high 80% at 40 yards with same load.
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Those are pretty tight patterns Pete. What are the choke constrictions on the Parker and the H&R and how long are the choke tapers on all of them?
Parker Bros. seemed to believe a long choke taper made a difference.





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