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Matt Valinsky 06-16-2025 06:01 PM

Question for the 10ga. Folks
 
I havea Parker 10ga Grade 1 hammer gun That I've had around 10 years and think it's about time I started shooting it.

I have RST hulls and Federal Black Cloud hulls. The RST hulls look like the Black cloud hulls, same brown color and head stamp, no stars. So the question, are the RST hulls Federals?

Back when I bought the gun a Mec reloader and the hulls came with the deal so thinking about reloading for it I bought a bag of Remington SP 10 wads and a 1 pounder of Red Dot. At the time I think I recall the wads and powder where part of a recipe along with Federal hulls, but as long as it'sbeen I might be wrong. Any thoughts in that direction? I will be checking Pete's spread sheet also. But in any event, thanks for any info you might pass along.

Pete Lester 06-17-2025 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Valinsky (Post 431745)
I havea Parker 10ga Grade 1 hammer gun That I've had around 10 years and think it's about time I started shooting it.

I have RST hulls and Federal Black Cloud hulls. The RST hulls look like the Black cloud hulls, same brown color and head stamp, no stars. So the question, are the RST hulls Federals?

Back when I bought the gun a Mec reloader and the hulls came with the deal so thinking about reloading for it I bought a bag of Remington SP 10 wads and a 1 pounder of Red Dot. At the time I think I recall the wads and powder where part of a recipe along with Federal hulls, but as long as it'sbeen I might be wrong. Any thoughts in that direction? I will be checking Pete's spread sheet also. But in any event, thanks for any info you might pass along.

The early RST 2 7/8" hulls I encountered were brown Federal hulls with RST markings. Later RST started using red Cheddite hulls with RST markings. The Federal's were better IMO.

19gr of Red Dot with either hull and 1 1/8 oz will be a nice target and small game load and "period correct". With the SP-10 wad you will need a 1/2" of or 1/2"+ spacer to get a proper crimp. Both 16ga and 20ga filler wads will work. Fiber wads are more forgiving of stack height than hard wads but they produce some confetti when shot. Annoying to some but others smile, depends on which way the wind is blowing.

Both Red Dot and SP10 wads are currently unobtanium.

Daniel Carter 06-17-2025 05:56 AM

BPI sold a waxed 16 ga. wad that eliminated the confetti. Kind of liked the celebration in every shot when i was not down wind.

keavin nelson 06-17-2025 09:37 AM

I use 16ga card wads for the needed stack height.

Pete Lester 06-17-2025 11:26 AM

Just after I said SP10 wads were not available along comes this Ebay auction. For the bargain price of $80 plus $7 shipping per bag AND there are five bags. Get 'em while they're hot! :rotf:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20556344330...3308&recoPos=1

Steven Groh 06-17-2025 11:39 AM

1/2" Waxed like these?
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/basket.asp

Daniel Carter 06-17-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Steven Groh (Post 431763)

Your reference did not show. BPI #HCW 16. Mine bought 5 years ago so no current knowledge

Steven Groh 06-17-2025 01:05 PM

1/2 Waxed Hard Card Wad (200/bag)
16ga

Item: HCW 16 GA
Price: $7.99

Matt Valinsky 06-17-2025 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete Lester (Post 431753)
The early RST 2 7/8" hulls I encountered were brown Federal hulls with RST markings. Later RST started using red Cheddite hulls with RST markings. The Federal's were better IMO.

19gr of Red Dot with either hull and 1 1/8 oz will be a nice target and small game load and "period correct". With the SP-10 wad you will need a 1/2" of or 1/2"+ spacer to get a proper crimp. Both 16ga and 20ga filler wads will work. Fiber wads are more forgiving of stack height than hard wads but they produce some confetti when shot. Annoying to some but others smile, depends on which way the wind is blowing.

Both Red Dot and SP10 wads are currently unobtanium.

Thank you!

CraigThompson 06-18-2025 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete Lester (Post 431762)
Just after I said SP10 wads were not available along comes this Ebay auction. For the bargain price of $80 plus $7 shipping per bag AND there are five bags. Get 'em while they're hot! :rotf:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20556344330...3308&recoPos=1

I’m glad I’ve started curtailing my shooting and have a decent amount of SP-10’s on hand or I’m afraid I’d make them an offer on all five bags .


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