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Unread 10-27-2013, 11:19 PM   #21
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Tom Selleck in the movie set in Australia (I can't remember the name) made quite an impressive shot out to what seemed like a half a mile with a Sharps with iron sights. Of course that was Hollywood. Now I remember, It was "Quigley down under"

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Thanks. Bill. Extrapolating to 2400 yards would put his shooting on a man sized target at that range. Close to the longest sniper kill record in Afghanistan by a Canadian shooter.
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Tom Selleck in the movie set in Australia (I can't remember the name) made quite an impressive shot out to what seemed like a half a mile with a Sharps with iron sights. Of course that was Hollywood. Now I remember, It was "Quigley down under"

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Hence the reason they have the "Quigley BPCR Shoot" every year in Forsyth Montana !
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then, you should know better than me.
I am quite sure I do !

But thanks just the same for your unwarrented comments .
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One mile is 1760 yards thus 1/2 a mile roufly 860 yards. Quite doable. The lo0ngest recorded shot with a sharps is refured to as the Billy Dixon shot. Billy shot an indian off his horse at 1700 yards with a big 50. Distance was survayed bu the U S calvery.
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One mile is 1760 yards thus 1/2 a mile roufly 860 yards. Quite doable. The lo0ngest recorded shot with a sharps is refured to as the Billy Dixon shot. Billy shot an indian off his horse at 1700 yards with a big 50. Distance was survayed bu the U S calvery.
In the last 15 or so years Mike Venturino was in Arizona or New Mexico somewhere and he happened to have a couple Army Engineer guys I think they were . Anyway they did some calculations and told him the elevation to use on his Sharps and he made a shot that was considered to be very similar to the Billy Dixon shot .

I shot the Hi Power silhouette range at Ridgeway PA once with peep sighted lever action rifles using cast bullets and let me just say 500 meters (550 yards) with an iron sighted rifle is about it for me !
Suffice to say I doubt if I would have hit what I did without the guy that was spotting for me . That day I used a circa 1952 Marlin 336SC in 35 REM with a Lyman peep and factory front sight with my home cast RCBS 35-200GC bullets pushed with SR4756 or SR7625 can't remmmeber which ! Can't say I hit them all but I did hit a few .
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It takes a much heavyer cast bullet to be effective at long ranges with these old guns. From 500grs to 650grs in 50cal. When the us military ran the first test in the 45/70 trapdoor the range was at 1700 yards (correct me if I am wrong) at 9' targets made of 2*4 pine boards with good penatration (as noted by the review board). They must have pointed the barrel up at least fourty five deg.
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I am reminded of the shot made by Gunny Carlos Hathcock aka "White Feather" in the 'Nam where he killed an NVA General at something over one mile with a converted 50 caliber BMG. Quite a feat for that time.

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It takes a much heavyer cast bullet to be effective at long ranges with these old guns. From 500grs to 650grs in 50cal. When the us military ran the first test in the 45/70 trapdoor the range was at 1700 yards (correct me if I am wrong) at 9' targets made of 2*4 pine boards with good penatration (as noted by the review board). They must have pointed the barrel up at least fourty five deg.
I believe the elevaton you mentioed is correct . I'm not sure if Venturino used a 45-70 or something else . But if I'm not mistaken he shot at a buffalo silhouette .
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I wasnt refuring to mikes test I was refuring to the original US military test.They used a square nine foot target made out of 2 by 4s. There was a group of shooters that got together after the movie quigly down under was made and tryed to duplicate the shoots in the movie. As best as I can remember they were able to do so useing the original gun that they used in the movie.That ngun was not the one you see tom carrying in the movie.It was a heavy barreled gun that they used to teach tom with.
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