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the old lifter 8 i have with cut 26 1/4 inch barrels is listed with 32 inch barrels in the parker pages 8 ga section...wish i could pin down this 8 ga choke thing...bill thanks... hey they may have all been full choke.. this is the way i would have ordered my new 8 ga from parker .. long barrels and extra full choke for me...im gonna keep looking at this choke thing on the 8 ga s in all brands.... charlie