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Kelly, you don't know my friend Bill. We have a little thing about not shooting the female quail out here. Well, Bill shot a couple anyway, said he couldn't tell. They don't have quail in Michigan, where he lives, but they have grouse and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he shoots the females of that species also. So if he ever comes back east and winds up in Vermont, watch out for him and keep your citation book handy.