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Thank you for your reply. I thought the stuff I read about cheddit huls was bull. I can buy 2 1/2" cheddit hulls from precision and not have to cut them down to lenth. I read some of pauls threads, but I did not see where he listed what kind of hulls he was useing. Dos'e anybody knoe what heat rang cheddite primers work in, low, medium, high?