JAMES JULIA'S MARCH 2012 AUCTION

[Bill Murphy]

I am a bit confused about the gun in question. Mr. Julia kindly gave us the catalog reference to the gun in question, if #1348 in the Spring 2009 catalog is the gun in question. Eric says the claim was made that the MBWT was claimed to be .030 and it turned out to be .015. The catalog states .017 and .019. Was the catalog wording changed? Did Eric call Julia's to get a confirmation of the .017 and .019? Why would anyone even think about buying such a gun in the first place? If Eric was told on the phone that the thickness was .030, why was the catalog description not changed? Maybe Eric will answer this question so we don't have to reread eight pages of forum text. This is not a gun most of us would give a second look, especially when it was described as having been redone and with bad barrels and a $6000 to $8000 estimate. Where did those numbers come from? I'm sure Mr. Julia's staff figured they had a sure "No Sale".

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I am a bit confused about the gun in question. Mr. Julia kindly gave us the catalog reference to the gun in question, if #1348 in the Spring 2009 catalog is the gun in question. Eric says the claim was made that the MBWT was claimed to be .030 and it turned out to be .015. The catalog states .017 and .019. Was the catalog wording changed? Did Eric call Julia's to get a confirmation of the .017 and .019? Why would anyone even think about buying such a gun in the first place? If Eric was told on the phone that the thickness was .030, why was the catalog description not changed? Maybe Eric will answer this question so we don't have to reread eight pages of forum text. This is not a gun most of us would give a second look, especially when it was described as having been redone and with bad barrels and a $6000 to $8000 estimate. Where did those numbers come from? I'm sure Mr. Julia's staff figured they had a sure "No Sale".

Bill, I will say one more time and then let's move on. The catalog stated, .017 on the gun I purchased and the other two 16's were stated thin also, so I called Bill and said I thought that was strange that all three were thin. He asked which one I was interested in and I told him. He called me back later that day and said the catalog was wrong and he personally had measured it and it was .030. When I got the Hosford gauge in June and measured it it was .015 in the middle of the barrel by the rib.

Mr. Julia I didn't post after our emails (not sure why you felt you needed to post the emails (or the ethics of that) and no I didn't look at the pdf file so I don't know if they are the originals or editted) so I don't know what you are talking about. Also I never have said in any post that you "Trashed" me, but I would say this last post that you made might fit into that catagory....! I guess you had a Bad Day on Friday and felt that you needed to vent.... so be it and hopefully this next week will be better for you.

Bruce, I don't remember the Julia Company supporting the PGCA like Puglisi's or Tony at CSMC so I am not sure what you are talking about but I am sure they will continue sending you their catalogs...

[Bill Murphy]

The Hosford gauge take some understanding. Are you sure of those measurements. I find it hard to believe that a gun with .665 bores would be so thin. I have never seen the outside of a set of "nice" barrels struck to a MBWT of .017. I have a suspicion that this gun is not as bad as it seems.

[Opening Day]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

The Hosford gauge take some understanding. Are you sure of those measurements. I find it hard to believe that a gun with .665 bores would be so thin. I have never seen the outside of a set of "nice" barrels struck to a MBWT of .017. I have a suspicion that this gun is not as bad as it seems.

Bill it is what it is I have already fitted another set of barrels to it (couple of people after me measured it too). So let's just let this thread die, Mr Julia is not going to change my mind and he is not going to change mine. So let's just say it ok to "disagree" and drop this subject. Ok....