10 ga loads

[Paul Harm]

Just shot my Parker lifter 10 on our sporting clays course - had a 43/50 - that's one of my better rounds. Mine is a 2 5/8 10ga. I didn't like the recoil for 1oz loads - at least with the plastic wads. Was useing around 19grs of 700X if I remember - a Sherman Bell load. Now in a paper Win. hull and paper wads with a roll crimp it was like shooting a 410. I cut the shells to fit seeing how there's a step & no forcing cone. I've had the gun for a year and it's the first time I've shot it because with star crimps the shells were getting a bulge in the end. Finally put a spacer under the shells to force them up into the final crimp station so it would put a tapper in them [ used the short shell kit from Mec like when you're going from 2 3/4 to 2 1/2 ] . You'd think it would have dawned on me earlier why and what to do to correct the problem. Anyway, for a 9 1/2 pound gun it sure balances and swings nice. Checked the chokes - .030 in each barrel. What is that in a 10ga ? In 12 it would be full. Maybe Imp Mod ? What do you guys load for light loads in the 10 ? Paul

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Originally Posted by Paul Harm

Just shot my Parker lifter 10 on our sporting clays course - had a 43/50 - that's one of my better rounds. Mine is a 2 5/8 10ga. I didn't like the recoil for 1oz loads - at least with the plastic wads. Was useing around 19grs of 700X if I remember - a Sherman Bell load. Now in a paper Win. hull and paper wads with a roll crimp it was like shooting a 410. I cut the shells to fit seeing how there's a step & no forcing cone. I've had the gun for a year and it's the first time I've shot it because with star crimps the shells were getting a bulge in the end. Finally put a spacer under the shells to force them up into the final crimp station so it would put a tapper in them [ used the short shell kit from Mec like when you're going from 2 3/4 to 2 1/2 ] . You'd think it would have dawned on me earlier why and what to do to correct the problem. Anyway, for a 9 1/2 pound gun it sure balances and swings nice. Checked the chokes - .030 in each barrel. What is that in a 10ga ? In 12 it would be full. Maybe Imp Mod ? What do you guys load for light loads in the 10 ? Paul

At the risk of having missed it on the forum, what is the difference between the short ten[ 2 7/8] and the short-short ten[2 5/8]?
I have a PH with supposedly short-short chambers.

[J. A. EARLY]

Paul,

.035 is full in 10 ga
.025 is called improved modified in 10 ga from the charts I have.

.030 is an improved/improved modified better know as a light full choke I believe.

If I want to shoot light loads I'm using gold gauge mates to shoot the light 12 gauge loads that I have a lot of and are easy to make compared to using up my 10 ga hulls and components, but that's just me. Shooting 7/8 ounce for practice. You would be amazed at the full choke patterns with a very light load.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by George M. Purtill

At the risk of having missed it on the forum, what is the difference between the short ten[ 2 7/8] and the short-short ten[2 5/8]?
I have a PH with supposedly short-short chambers.

About 1/4"

The 2 5/8" 10ga has less internal volume than the 2 7/8". This means less filler wad is required. Heavier loadings like 1 5/8 and 1 3/4 ounce may not be possible (or advisable). A plastic wad may not be able to sit deep enough to allow for a star crimp, forcing a roll crimp or the trimming of the petals to make room for a star crimp, or use of nitro card and filler wad combination instead of plastic wad. Use the 2 7/8" Sherman Bell recipes that are low pressure and experiment with the filler wad to get the shot column height correct.

Us Short Ten and Shortier Ten reloaders are a little more on our own than loaders of other gauges. The good news is that big hole is very forgiving.

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Pete
I knew someone would give me that wise guy 1/4 inch answer. I should be someone's setup man.
Historical question:
Why and when was the 2 7/8 started? My 2 5/8 was bored in September 1895? Was 2 7/8 available or in use at at that time?

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by George M. Purtill

Pete
I knew someone would give me that wise guy 1/4 inch answer. I should be someone's setup man.
Historical question:
Why and when was the 2 7/8 started? My 2 5/8 was bored in September 1895? Was 2 7/8 available or in use at at that time?

I gotta take the easy shots to keep my average up

Here is an interesting article on the history of the 10 bore that answers your questions in a general fashion.

http://www.wildfowling.co.uk/magazine/tens.htm

[George M. Purtill Member #28]

Originally Posted by Pete Lester

I gotta take the easy shots to keep my average up

Here is an interesting article on the history of the 10 bore that answers your questions in a general fashion.

http://www.wildfowling.co.uk/magazine/tens.htm

Pete
Thanks for that reference.
And here is a photo of two Parker 10A brass shells- 2.625 and 2.875. I never noticed the difference!! But now that I have discovered the 10 gauge my eyes are opened.

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by George M. Purtill

Pete
Thanks for that reference.
And here is a photo of two Parker 10A brass shells- 2.625 and 2.875. I never noticed the difference!! But now that I have discovered the 10 gauge my eyes are opened.

George a few years ago if somebody told me they were shooting 1 1/4 ounce in a 10ga, I would have thought to myself big whoop, I can shoot that out my 12's. Well now that I have shot a short ten on game for a couple of years it is a big deal. The ten simply shoots 1 1/4 ounce better than it should work, it practically defies physics IMO. Scott K. and I have each shot 1000's of crows over the years and we have now shot a lot of them over the last couple of years with 10 bores. The difference in long range performance is significant and we have seen why the 10 was banned from both trap and pigeon shooting. The more I use my Cinderella NH the more it becomes my go to gun for all crow, duck and goose hunting.