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Thanks, that is what I wanted. I use a 600 Jr for short 10's with the "short kit". I have a few 600 Jr's in 12, 20, 28 & 410 that were Papa's and mine before we got into Grabbers and the 9000's. Does MEC make a conversion kit to 16 gauge? I think I saw something like that on ebay. I'm using a Lee Loadall and had forgotten how slow they are.