Hemingway's guns

[Dean Romig]

Didn't Alice B. Toklas make cookies or somethin'?

[OH Osthaus]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Didn't Alice B. Toklas make cookies or somethin'?

yeah or sumpthun

[Grantham Forester]

Originally Posted by Rick Losey

yeah or sumpthun

Alice B. Toklas and Pauline Pfeiffer's sister Jinny were both Lesbians, back at the time when homosexuality was a dark dirty secret. There is a theory that one reason for Hemingway's youngest son, Gregory (aka- GiGi) turned out so "mixed up' about his sexual orientation is the great amount of time he spent in the care of Jinny Pfeiffer, while his mother and father were away on jaunts. Unlike Pauline's super wealthy uncle Gustavus Pfeiffer, who favored Ernest and Pauline with funds to: Take their first trip to Africa-- order the Wheeler fishing boat named the Pilar, purchased several new cars and also bought the house in Key West on Whitehead street for them, Jinny hated Ernest and did apparently try to be a divisive force in their troubled marriage. The best read on this is Bernice Kert's novel "The Hemingway Women", she did her research very well indeed.

[David Lien]

Grantham: A mile east of Sun Valley is where the Ernest Hemingway Memorial is located. The inscription reads

Best of all he loved the fall
The leaves yellow on the cottonwoods
Leaves floating on the trout streams
and above the hills
The high blue windless skies
now he will be part of them forever.


This is part of the eulogy that Ernest Hemingway gave for Gen Van Guilder in 1939.
Grantham I did enjoy your posts. Thank you

PS I will post up some more Idaho imformation later when I get "un busy".Wife Mary has a "job jar " with my name on it. and the fish are Bitin
David Lien

[Stepmac]

Originally Posted by Grantham Forester

Alice B. Toklas and Pauline Pfeiffer's sister Jinny were both Lesbians, back at the time when homosexuality was a dark dirty secret. There is a theory that one reason for Hemingway's youngest son, Gregory (aka- GiGi) turned out so "mixed up' about his sexual orientation is the great amount of time he spent in the care of Jinny Pfeiffer, while his mother and father were away on jaunts. Unlike Pauline's super wealthy uncle Gustavus Pfeiffer, who favored Ernest and Pauline with funds to: Take their first trip to Africa-- order the Wheeler fishing boat named the Pilar, purchased several new cars and also bought the house in Key West on Whitehead street for them, Jinny hated Ernest and did apparently try to be a divisive force in their troubled marriage. The best read on this is Bernice Kert's novel "The Hemingway Women", she did her research very well indeed.

You wrote of several things that I did not know. Thanx.

I just Finished Valerie Hemingway's book about her life with the "Hemingway Men". She was Hem's final secretary and also married Gregory "Gigi", meeting him at Hem's funeral. Gigi was a cross dresser from his early life (according to Valerie), which was probably why Hem disowned him - refused to mention his name, etc...

I wonder if there is a reason that people become cross dressors, or do they just have a hankering to do such a thing? Probably varies with the individual. Gigi took it to extremes, having a sex change operation and changing his name to Gloria. Weird. He died in a women's jail.