I'm sending in for my "doubles pin"--

[Old and Reliable]

[QUOTE=E Robert Fabian;6400]Made up for the poor shooting today-with a little luck added in. Managed these birds with 3 shots. Got a double on the green heads first thing, moved over to another pond and caught the geese up in a narrow marsh, they had to come at me to exit, both came down dead with the first shot 15-20 yrds.
First band of the year.

Francis I reload Bismuth and Nice shot.

1890 NH 10ga. 32" full and fuller-- Nice old 10 bore Parker, Sie. I notice you use a slip-over pad, as I do on some of my waterfowling guns as well (no 10 gauge YET) - as I value gun fit and performance over "correct period pads"-then in the later season, wearing heavier clothing, I can remove the pad if necessary for proper fit- also, the LOP that might work (for me) shooting out of a field pit blind from the seat or a crouch, might not be right on the same shotgun, when I use it for pass shooting where I do better standing--I recall Gene Hill's story about the late shotgunning legend Rudy Etchen- how Rudy arrived w/o a shotgun at a duck hunting club, borrowed a pumpgun and used tape and something else to get it to fit him properly- and no doubt, was the high gun for that day-

What hulls do you use to reload your 10 gauge non-toxic waterfowl loads? I am going with a friend tomorrow (Sat 31st.) AM to hunt a flooded cornfield- we have had a very wet October so far here in West MI- the big storm front that dumped snow in CO and WY is moving our way- all bodes well for some flight birds- He had a LC Smith Hammer 10 with 32" Royal (proof steel) barrels and wants to start using it. Tomorrow I will probably leave the GHE at home and take a "weather gun" instead- we shall see. Wow- 4 birds/three shells- both Geese down with one shot in the "boiler room" as judged by the blood on the chest feathers= My old duck hunting mentor once told me that if you have a dead bird in hand (cripples being finished off included) for every three shells you have fired, you are in the "big leagues"--He mainly hunted Geese and puddles- not divers- On those Mach 3 ducks, I'd say maybe one bird for four shells expended--just my guess!!!

[Labowner]

I use Federal hulls to reload the ten, they are available at Ballistic Products or Precision Reloading. I made a hull trimmer that is simple and quick, someone from the PGCA forum told me about it. I also have Sherman Bell's recipes if needed.

[Old and Reliable]

Thanks to all on this thread who got the change in shipping the doubles pin in effect. Mine arrived today along with the very nice letter from Art Wheaton (Thank you indeed Art for that, first class all the way)- and in the padded envelope many of you had suggested be used to avoid loss or damage. Jennifer also sent me a confirming e-mail, all things that make being a member of the PGCA a very worthwhile endeavor, whether you own one Parker or more than one--

Today was another good waterfowling day, overcast all day, 40's, not the wind we had on Saturday 10/31- but a morning hunt, then lunch and coffee with the farmer friend/host-- then a second farm en route home- ended up with two nice Canadas, which are headed for the Veteran's Day game dinner and pre-deer hunting banquet (MI gun season opens on Nov. 15- regular as the mail)-- they'll be slow roasted stuffed with sauerkraut and apple slices and served with potatoe pancakes and a chestnut and bread crumb stuffing- Also took three Greenheads, one had a band on each leg, have never seen that before.

I can't claim a double on any of those birds I took, and I used a Model 12 3" Magnum with No. 2 Federal steel loads-I am going to take the 12 GHE on Friday Nov 6th- for a preserve pheasant hunt- but if I should get a chance for a true "pair in the air" on planted birds with the Parker, I won't claim another pin- first of all, one is enough- it's going on my old L.L. Bean camo duck hunting cap with the long visor- I've had it for maybe 40 years and it is a "good luck" cap for me- Secondly, and nothing against preserve or planted birds, but from my point of view, the doubles pin should be based on native game birds and migratory birds in season and taken fairly- We don't have a dove season here- I would guess taking a true pair of doves pushed by a tailwind, or snipe from a pushboat, or a pair of divers straffing the decoys would be "Top Shelf" performance- also, in my experience, even with a 12 bore, pheasants can be "die-hards" and I'd rather use the second barrel for "insurance"- but if another member gets a double on preserve pheasants, I'll cheer him or her on, even buy the first round after the hunt- Good luck to all-

[Labowner]

Sounds like great day to me! The double banded duck didn't have a reward band?

[Old and Reliable]

The mallard's left leg had the std. AVIS Patuxtent MD band with the 800 number for data. Its right leg had a DU Canada band- a "pull tight" style similar I suppose to a electrical cable connector, only in aluminum. I'm a Sponsor member of DU and will research it futher, after the season closes 12/6/09 in this Zone.

This is first mallard in all my many years of waterfowl hunting I've seen thus banded. As you are also an avid waterfowler Bob, I'll share the recovery of the goose for you- one of the biggest I have taken this Fall- I rolled him solidly in the air with the first two shots ( 2 & 3/4" Fed. steel No. 2's- my basic mallard load- The goose shook those off and went into a climb, with one wing beating way slower than the other, and as he leveled off I gave him the third load in my M12- a 3" Federal steel BB- he went as stiff as an ironing board and did a power glide into the neighbor's yet unpicked corn (about 44 acres and fenced)--Michigan game laws state you have to have the landowner's permission to retrieve a downed bird or game animal, fortunately I had that- there is a tree line by the fence (probably fenced in the 1940's, as judged by the style of the barbed wire and the rust, and the wire solidly into the bark of the trees- and a tree stand, so I unloaded the shotgun and went up for a "bird's eye view", recalling Nash Buckingham's advice- and after a few minutes saw a section about in the middle (cross the run of the rows) where the stalks were broken down--so I counted the rows and did a fence post tally for co-ordinates, climbed slowly down, picked up the M12, crossed under the wires, and went to find the bird--

Our area was hit with unually heavy rains for October- a lot of acreage is still in standing corn, due to high moisture- so I was grateful for my rubber pac boots- found the bird, dead as a wedge, and just as I left the corn and approached the fence wire, two mallards buzzed over- mount, swing, click- what?? I had forgotten to reload- just as well, finding a big bird in corn is one thing,. but a dropped mallard or a pheasant-without a retriever- different story indeed.

I have had a fairly good season since ours opened here the second Saturday in October-wish I had some of my old partners around to share it with though, they have all either passed on, moved or given it up due to steel shot and the complicated zones and regs- such is life-

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Francis Morin

- there is a tree line by the fence (probably fenced in the 1940's, as judged by the style of the barbed wire and the rust, and the wire solidly into the bark of the trees-

Here's one that was likely strung using maple saplings as fenceposts around the turn of the last century. Just an illustration - don't mean to hijack the thread.

[Old and Reliable]

A fine old tree indeed, graced by a fine American double. Very fitting Dean, as my favorite poem is Joyce Kilmer's "Trees"-- and my second favorite is "High Flight" By John Gillespie McGee Jr.-- both authors of these classic and timeless poems died way too soon-