wish you the best on your surgery...i know what your saying about the 8 ga kicking hard but ive had the 3 inch 12 ga and the 3 1/2 inch 12 ga hurt me bad a few times...id rather shoot the 8 than a 12 magnum double or a single barrel...the weight of the 8 ga keeps recoil from being to bad...bill ive loaded a lots of rounds for the 8 ga with out theproper tools..i use my old lee hand loader 10 ga most of the time...got me a crimp roller from precision works purty good a lot of times i barrow my wifes hot glue gun... bill did you use a lathe to peel those hulls... charlie
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