Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums Parker Hammer Guns

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
The first 20 gauge hammer gun
Unread 10-19-2011, 08:20 PM   #1
Member
Hammer Gun
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Gary Carmichael Sr's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,697
Thanks: 2,848
Thanked 8,016 Times in 1,706 Posts

Default The first 20 gauge hammer gun

Gents, I thought I would tease you a little with these photos of the first 20 gauge hammergun and also the only $250.00 or "A" grade made. These are the only photos I have right now, but shows the unusual engraving. Enjoy !!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCN9053-1.JPG (245.1 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN9057.JPG (248.9 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN9063-1.JPG (211.4 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN9073.JPG (226.8 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg DSCN9074.JPG (222.0 KB, 9 views)
Gary Carmichael Sr is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-19-2011, 08:30 PM   #2
Member
Autumn Daze
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Dave Suponski's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,915
Thanks: 4,389
Thanked 4,112 Times in 1,744 Posts

Default

Gary, What a wonderful gun! All I can say is WOW! Thanks for sharing the gun with us.
__________________
"Much care is bestowed to make it what the Sportsman needs-a good gun"-Charles Parker
Dave Suponski is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Dave Suponski For Your Post:
Unread 10-20-2011, 07:07 AM   #3
Member
Roundsworth
PGCA Member
 
Mark Landskov's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,465
Thanks: 1,553
Thanked 577 Times in 319 Posts

Default

Wow! Wotta jewel! Thanks for sharing.
__________________
GMC(SW)-USN, Retired
'Earnest Will'
'Desert Shield'
'Desert Storm'
'Southern Watch'
Mark Landskov is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 10:06 AM   #4
Member
C grade
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
David Dwyer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 1,390
Thanks: 4,135
Thanked 1,248 Times in 457 Posts

Default

WOW!!!! Gary,you have done a fantastic job of cleaning up that treasure.
That is by far the finest underlever in existence!! Thank you for sharing it.
David
David Dwyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 04:57 PM   #5
Member
Bruce Day
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Bruce Day's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,995
Thanks: 554
Thanked 15,698 Times in 2,676 Posts

Default

Well I think several people had an opportunity with this gun and Gary had the ability to acquire it and mildly restore it. Its a wonderful gun among other wonderful lifter action guns and is particularly interesting because it is a small bore in an era when small bores were not popular and were very limited in ability. I'm not downplaying the gun, its a great little Parker and I'm fascinated by the artful engraving scenes.

Added: These early 20's were made for 3/4 oz shot and a 2 dram load. Thats a slow 28ga load by todays standards.
Bruce Day is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 07:17 PM   #6
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 16,550
Thanks: 6,767
Thanked 9,902 Times in 5,257 Posts

Default

I don't know what Bruce just said, but I'm waiting for the edit or delete.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #7
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,604
Thanks: 3,332
Thanked 13,144 Times in 3,482 Posts

Default

I feel like I just walked into a party, right after the punchline was delivered. You all seem to know what's going on, where the guns been or what it looked like before it looks like it does now, which is just plain beautiful. I'm not versed enough to know the difference between $250, and A grade, as I thought they were distinct gradings at different periods. I think the OP put the pics up to share with us what a beautiful gun it is. AT least for my part, I appreciate that he did.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 07:56 PM   #8
Member
Bruce Day
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Bruce Day's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,995
Thanks: 554
Thanked 15,698 Times in 2,676 Posts

Default

Edgar, Gary is a friend and the owner of the gun. The Parker Story (TPS) reveals that for early guns, such as this, different grades were called dollar grades, the grades determined by the price charged. It wasn't until later, I don't recall the year, that Parker changed to A, B, C, etc. So, the $250 grade was the most expensive for the time, and would be the same as the A grade as it was later termed.

That's my understanding, maybe others can fill in if I am wrong or off.

Some of these guns get to be known by a few people before they are known throughout the collecting community, as anything desireable anywhere. I had heard of the gun, but had not seen it, and it couldn't belong to a more dedicated and knowledgeable collector than the present owner. This is a significant Parker and joins a group of other great and significant Parkers.

I hope this is understandable, I usually edit posts if my post is confusing, imprecise or incorrect to an average person.
Bruce Day is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bruce Day For Your Post:
Unread 10-20-2011, 08:26 PM   #9
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,604
Thanks: 3,332
Thanked 13,144 Times in 3,482 Posts

Default

I guess the opening post implied that $250 and A were used simultaneously, which was new to me.
I'm not unfamiliar with how pieces of this significance appear in the daylight after previously thought to be mere 'urban legends'. I was offered and subsequently agreed to buy a historically significant, and well traveled gun. It had been in the same hands for nearly 100 years, and when word got out that it had been sold, it suddenly became suspect of fake, upgrade, etc. It kinda took the pleasure out of being able to show it until it was authenticated by the manufacturer's archivist, Robert Wilson and the CT State Librarian.
I appreciate any owner who is willing to share his collection with others. Invariably there will be back-chatter, but it goes with the territory I guess.
It's especially great to see the 'first' anything, and whether i has been restored, or is in original condition, the impact of seeing it isn't diminished.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 10-20-2011, 08:46 PM   #10
Member
Wild Skies
PGCA Member
 
Greg Baehman's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,372
Thanks: 1,277
Thanked 3,889 Times in 1,061 Posts

Default

I'm kinda afraid to ask, but did it come with barrels?

If so, can you describe them?
__________________
Wild Skies
Since 1951
Greg Baehman is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:20 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.