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By the way, what is "too good to be true" about a VHE 20 without a lick of case color for $5800.00? It is about $2500.00 overpriced unless the pictures that are not shown are way different from the ones that were shown. I have always wondered why the "fraudulent" ads described as such by gunsamerica.com are still on the site days and weeks after their discovery of fraud. You might address that question to gunsamerica customer service.