China ? NO NO NO.

[david ross]

Originally Posted by Milton Starr

Made in japan is different though then made in china . My browning bps is made in japan but no one else makes a pump 10 ga. One reason I plan to learn cadcam and cnc machine at college is.so I can learn to make not good.but great american guns. Nowadays people just want what's cheap and easy but its not working for us . Then again from what I read made in america isn't working for the new ithaca.

Hi Milton.
If you like guns made in japan all well and good each to there own as they
say. I hope you do well in college and do make great american guns you never
know i may buy one.As for the ithaca i have a old 1967 -37 pump and i just
love that old gun i hope the new one will make it ithaca really deserve to they
are great American guns.
All the best Dave.

[Milton Starr]

Ithink though most americans wont pay the price it cost make a gun here with machined not stamped parts. Well except people who hunted at the plantation. Im not to worried about gums disappearing . There are some 80 million guns In the US I as ive read it.also there was a servey. In the U.K 75% of.people didn't agree with hunting. Now in the usa 75% said it didn't bother them. I have a neighbor who has a large collection of guns and he is a coach on a skeet shotgun team. He acts like he should only have.guns kinda like the hunting for the rich you mentioned. The machine shop teacher here builds scaled models of steam engines for a hobby. Pretty smart guy

[david ross]

Hi Milton.
As you say alot of illinformed people in the UK are against hunting shooting ect but we will
never let them win . Hunting shooting and fishing are a way of life in the UK and we will
not let them take that from us. As in the words of SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL WE SHALL
NEVER SURENDER.

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by david ross

Hi Milton.
As you say alot of illinformed people in the UK are against hunting shooting ect but we will
never let them win . Hunting shooting and fishing are a way of life in the UK and we will
not let them take that from us. As in the words of SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL WE SHALL
NEVER SURENDER.

--Not as long as they had the US of A as an ally anyway--Luck favored the Limeys in the WW2 era- the "Lend-lease" scam that FDR cooked up, the superior Radar system that give the brave RAF pilots a "head's up" when old Fat-Boy- Call Me Meyer- Herman Goring's Luftwaffe was headed for the olde white cliffs o'Dover- the great Supermarine Spitfire that could go head to head with the ME-109 and Fock-Wulf fighters, the lucky escape from Dunkirk (when the Wehrmacht stopped to regroup) and the biggest coup discovering the German enigma code from a captured U-Boat the Kreigsmarine considered to have been sunk- the sequestered code breakers could read every German message after that-- Old fat Winnie with his cigars and his ever present glass of whiskey was the right man for the job back in those dark and dangerous days, when Germany under the maniac leader could have taken all of Europe- 1940-- only when Hitler went against his General Staff's advice and decided to attack Russia and have a two-front war- did the whells start to come off for Germany-IMO. But as the sage once so wisely said- "A prophet is without honor (or honour for the Limeys) in his home country" so right after the war ended, Winnie was out of a job-- as Gen. Patton was often fond of saying-- "All fame is fleeting"!!

[david ross]

Hi Francis.
I think the battle of Britain was the turning point of the war for us in England
owr first victory over the Nazis. Then after that came victory in north africa
and the end of the africa core for the germans the race to Egypt was over.
As Churchill said in 1940 before the USA came in to ww2 although we could have never of won that war with out the USA by our side.
Winnies tridute to the RAF.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many by so few
and if the british empire shall last a thousand years people will say this was
there finest hour. As i write these words it brings a lump to my throut.
Sorry to go on abought old winney but he is a hero of mine and i think the
greatest English man ever to live althought his mother was a American.
So if you have a hero fly your flag for them.
All the best Dave .
P.S. As you fought by our side ww2 as you fight to day in Afghanistan by our
side once more. My God protect all our troops were ever thay are.

[Old and Reliable]

Originally Posted by david ross

Hi Francis.
I think the battle of Britain was the turning point of the war for us in England
owr first victory over the Nazis. Then after that came victory in north africa
and the end of the africa core for the germans the race to Egypt was over.
As Churchill said in 1940 before the USA came in to ww2 although we could have never of won that war with out the USA by our side.
Winnies tridute to the RAF.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many by so few
and if the british empire shall last a thousand years people will say this was
there finest hour. As i write these words it brings a lump to my throut.
Sorry to go on abought old winney but he is a hero of mine and i think the
greatest English man ever to live althought his mother was a American.
So if you have a hero fly your flag for them.
All the best Dave .
P.S. As you fought by our side ww2 as you fight to day in Afghanistan by our
side once more. My God protect all our troops were ever thay are.

-Rommel depended on shipments of crucial supplies, including parts and ammo for his Afrika Corps- the Germans in their alliance with the Italians thought, with their code intact, they owned the shipping lanes from Italy to the North coast of Africa- once the Allies had the code key, they knew the details of every shipment to Rommel, and many ships went down in the Med Sea with his much needed supply chain broken- It did Rommel little good to capture Tobruck intact- except for food and medicine- as the Brits and the American tanks ran on gasoline, the Panzer Tanks on diesel fuel-- Montgomery was no match for the wily Rommel- Die Wiestul Fuchs-- it took someone like George Patton to defeat Rommel, and that might not have happened without the code breakers "lucky break". I can only wonder how the European theatre might have turned out if Patton had not slapped the coward in the field hospital in Sicily!!

[david ross]

Originally Posted by Francis Morin

-Rommel depended on shipments of crucial supplies, including parts and ammo for his Afrika Corps- the Germans in their alliance with the Italians thought, with their code intact, they owned the shipping lanes from Italy to the North coast of Africa- once the Allies had the code key, they knew the details of every shipment to Rommel, and many ships went down in the Med Sea with his much needed supply chain broken- It did Rommel little good to capture Tobruck intact- except for food and medicine- as the Brits and the American tanks ran on gasoline, the Panzer Tanks on diesel fuel-- Montgomery was no match for the wily Rommel- Die Wiestul Fuchs-- it took someone like George Patton to defeat Rommel, and that might not have happened without the code breakers "lucky break". I can only wonder how the European theatre might have turned out if Patton had not slapped the coward in the field hospital in Sicily!!

Hi Francis.
Yes i think your right monty was not a match for Rommel he was to cautious
and did not push as Patton did but the 8th army desert rats were and got the
job done I have a feeling that if Patton and his tanks had gone up that road
to Arnhem our 6th airbourne boys would of taken that bridge.
Monty was good at the set peace battle but he would not take a chance as
Patton would.

All the best Dave.