QUESTION OF VALUE - Page 4

Autumn Daze · 09-24-2009, 07:39 PM

John,Danny is in charge of the picture takin..He,s pretty good at it.

John D. · 09-24-2009, 08:21 PM

If he takes pictures the same way he shoots that .410 - I have no doubt he is good at it...

Give Danny my best, OK? As well - if we do the Jan 1 thing again - will he be coming??

Best to you!

JD

MarketHunter · 09-24-2009, 08:29 PM

A 10 gauge on a #2 frame is about as useful as tits on a boar in my opinion. You couldn't shoot heavy waterfowling loads in it, it would beat you to death. I've got one on a #3 frame and it still kicks like a mule with 3 1/2 inch shells. I'd imagine a #2 with heavy 2 7/8 shells would be just as bad or worse.

Remington marked a lot of the 3 inch 12 gauge guns on the barrel lug. Makes them pretty easy to spot. Plus the barrels on at least some of them have an odd contour to add meat to the chambers so that's another quick tell. I hear there's one for sale at the Vintagers with a heavy price tag if anybody wants to check it out and give a report.

Destry

Autumn Daze · 09-24-2009, 08:48 PM

Destry,I will have to take a look at it. Who has it? Those 3" chambered 12's aren,t too hard to spot but you can,t really look for em going by serial number you kinda have to have them in hand.

John, I don't think he would miss it! Ha had a great time last year

09-24-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Destry L. Hoffard

A 10 gauge on a #2 frame is about as useful as tits on a boar in my opinion. You couldn't shoot heavy waterfowling loads in it, it would beat you to death. I've got one on a #3 frame and it still kicks like a mule with 3 1/2 inch shells. I'd imagine a #2 with heavy 2 7/8 shells would be just as bad or worse.

Remington marked a lot of the 3 inch 12 gauge guns on the barrel lug. Makes them pretty easy to spot. Plus the barrels on at least some of them have an odd contour to add meat to the chambers so that's another quick tell. I hear there's one for sale at the Vintagers with a heavy price tag if anybody wants to check it out and give a report.

Destry

Thanks Destry- I get shots on mallards and Canadas under 25 (est'd) yards- But let's take a 1 & 3/8 load of either steel or non-toxic shot- push it at the same fps. through a .730" dia tube, then move it up to an 11 gauge (.750) and then to a true 10 gauge (.775")- just as moving fluids through a pipe, the larger the I.D. of that pipe (with appropriate wall thickness) the more eficient the flow- comparing liquids to modern plastic wads and buffered loads is not "apples to apples" of course, but still--

If I were lucky enough to own a ejector 10 Parker with 32" steel barrels (regardless of frame size- the number 2 was arbitrary) I would shoot in it custom loads comparable to a 3" 12 magnum. I only use the 3" 12 loads in the late Winter "bonus season" when the geese have heavier "armor plating". But I will yield to your expertise in the 10 bore realm, Suh- as I never have owned one (yet)--

MarketHunter · 09-25-2009, 04:39 AM

Dave,

I just heard that it was there, no idea who's got it.

DLH

Harry Collins · 09-25-2009, 07:55 AM

Destry is correct about 10 gauge shells through a #2 frame. I shot a round of sporting clays with 1 1/4 oz loads through my #2 frame 10 gage lifter Parker and it wore me out. I swore I would never do that again. A hundred shots of 1 1/8 oz through the #2 frame is a dream, however, and makes the old girl a pleasure to shoot all day long. The duck and goose blind is another story when you are only going to shoot a half a box of shells (I'm thinking the old box of 25 here boys). You hardly feel the thing go off, but of course 1 1/4 oz @ 1200 fps is a hell of alot different than 2 oz @ 1350 fps.

Harry

George Lander · 09-25-2009, 01:46 PM

I going to look at the .410 VHE next Thursday & I'll send a report & pictures then.

Best Regards, George

Labowner · 09-25-2009, 03:13 PM

Destry and Harry, You may not reload but I do and I couldn't disagree more. Scott has a 2 frame 10ga. with the 3 frame butt stock, lots of recoil area,that weighs in at around 9lbs 8 oz.. We shoot 1 1/4 and 1 3/8 loads all day using Sherman Bell's recipes. Scotts 30" 2 frame ten is about 8 oz. lighter than my 3 frame. I'm in the market for a 2 frame ten in the future after handling Scott's.

These are Damascus guns so we are shooting low pressure loads in 1100 to 1200 FPS

Harry Collins · 09-25-2009, 03:24 PM

Robert,

You are exactly right. My #4 frame "D" and #3 frame "DH" both have 32" barrels are in the ten pound weight range and Sherman Bell's 1 1/4 oz loads at almost 1200 fps are no problem shooting all day long. My #2 frame with 30" Twist barrels is as handy and at about the same weight as a #2 frame 12 gauge and 1 1/4 oz wares on my 61 year old complaints!

Harry