Info on serial # 190094 from the serialization book erial #190094

[Christopher Graves]

This was my Grandfather's gun. 20 guage DHE , 0 frame with a single trigger. The barrels measure 26" and they touch. The keels look right based on the pics I have seen online but the matting runs to the end.

Wondering if they have been cut down.

Any info would be greatly appreciatted.

Chris

[David Noble]

Sorry, Chris. There is no listing for that number in the Serialization book, And no records in the PGCA records for a letter.
Parker Bros did produce some guns with rib pattern running to the end of the barrels.
I suggest you get bore and choke dimensions, minimum wall thickness and the depth at which choke taper starts.

[Dean Romig]

Or post some good high-resolution pictures of your gun here. I, for one, would really like to see it. That serial number is within the period where many of us think Parker Bros. engraving was at its finest.





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[mobirdhunter]

As David pointed out, sometimes the rib matting runs to the end on original length barrels. I have one, confirmed in the records.

If you can measure the length of the chokes, and they are long as is typical of Parkers, that can be another piece of corroborating evidence.

[Dean Romig]

I have measured Parker choke tapers as long as 6 1/4".





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[Dylan Rhodes]

At what point does choke length become suspicious? I have a VHE that letters with 26, but currently sports correctly numbered 28’s with no termination line. I now have the means to measure choke constriction so I was hoping to put to bed question number 2, were they cut? Are they original is buried among the Griffen and Howe records from VD&L that are no longer accessible….

[Dean Romig]

Generally speaking, the tighter the constriction the longer the taqper. If the choke tapers too quickly damage to the shot pellets may occur, causing flyers and disturbing the pattern and the Parker Bros. barrel borers and finishers knew this.

What is your choke constriction in thousandths of an inch and how long are the choke tapers?





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[Dylan Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

Generally speaking, the tighter the constriction the longer the taqper. If the choke tapers too quickly damage to the shot pellets may occur, causing flyers and disturbing the pattern and the Parker Bros. barrel borers and finishers knew this.

What is your choke constriction in thousandths of an inch and how long are the choke tapers?





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Dean,

The right barrel is 0.025, the left is 0.039. Both start constricting about 4.5” in from the muzzle.

[Dean Romig]

That sounds about right to me Dylan. I would not suspect your barrels have been cut. Sometimes due to damage the muzzles get trimmed back 1/8” or so but that’s all I would think.





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[Dylan Rhodes]

They are 28” on the button, just lacking the terminating line and the letter further confused the matter. I will die on the hill of a stock book error. Luckily, it’s not a super unique configuration or grade.