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Unread 08-25-2025, 12:10 PM   #21
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Can't see the Cutts but I happen to like them. Wood is gorgeous.
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Unread 08-25-2025, 02:40 PM   #22
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My Dad use to refer to the Cutts as a Corn Cob on the end of the barrel
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I suppose I'll get flamed for this, but I find that coarse checkering and stippling around the fleur-de-lis on high grade post WW-II Model 12 and 21s pretty poor compared to what our factories were putting out on high grade Parker Bros., Remington, Lefever, etc. doubles sixty years earlier. The checkering on the F-Grade Remington pumps and autos being made concurrently with those Model 12 and 21s was better.
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What is interesting is when Remington wanted to do it, they were the best. Engraving and the checking is second to none. Unfortunately, they decided that they didn’t want to do it moving forward. What a shame. But, thankfully, we have available to us some of their best efforts.
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Keith, Here is the story. I think it was around 2001, this gun was listed on gun broker by Buffalo Bills shooting emporium in Florida. There were several very bad pictures and the gun went through two cycles with no interest.
I thought at first it was an upgrade as we all know there are a ton of them out there.
What I noticed from the pictures was the Winchester name coming through the leather covered pad. I thought if it was upgraded no way would they have used a Winchester pad to cover with leather.
I called and they didn’t know much about it except that the owner lived in the neighborhood and told them his father worked for Winchester as a salesman and this was his gun.
I struck a great deal as they had no interest in it.
You can’t imagine how happy I was when I opened the box!
It is one of my favorite Model 12’s, and I think if you only want one example, this is it.
I think so now and now I have to ask him.
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Researcher, the coarse around 1950 checkering on Model 12 graded guns is how we identify them as "original". Don't be to hard on them. I don't know why they did that, but they did.
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I suppose I'll get flamed for this, but I find that coarse checkering and stippling around the fleur-de-lis on high grade post WW-II Model 12 and 21s pretty poor compared to what our factories were putting out on high grade Parker Bros., Remington, Lefever, etc. doubles sixty years earlier. The checkering on the F-Grade Remington pumps and autos being made concurrently with those Model 12 and 21s was better.
Yes, but then look at the British Bests, H & H, as an example.
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Mr McCarty, It looks as though you need to expand your Horizons. There is always room for one more Deer hunter. Give it a try.
LOL: Jim, I am 80 years old. Have never popped a cap at a deer or elk. Years ago, I shot most of the cayotes that lived and died in Kansas. I used a Remington Model 99 in .243. It had a tip off scope. Today, I don't know what I'd do with a dead deer. Probably hold a funeral.
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One would eat a dead deer, considered by many as fine dining, especially in this house.
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I think so now and now I have to ask him.
Let me know.
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