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Unread 05-22-2011, 10:23 AM   #1
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if the tool steel is breaking from shooting the gun then the problem is that the steel being used is to hard..you need steel with less harding in it...to brittle or hard steel breaks very eaisly...you nned a softer screw in my opinion....charlie
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That screw is really small. # 4, I think, and with very little presure the head just rings off. I have some offset hammer firing pins Dave Purnell made out of a very tough steel, Maybe something like that.
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Ooops- Charlie- perhaps you mean firing pins here
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if the tool steel is breaking from shooting the gun then the problem is that the steel being used is to hard..you need steel with less harding in it...to brittle or hard steel breaks very eaisly...you nned a softer screw in my opinion....charlie
-- I like O2 drill rod for firing pins, but most machine screws found in older "double hardened and fitted" side-by-sides (M21 Winchester the exception) are machine from 1018 low carbon no alloyed mild steel- later machine screws produced on Acme and other makes of automatic screw machines might use 12L14 (greater machinability)-- If you want to shoot this hammer gun, and have it function, I would suggest drilling out and re-tapping the threaded hole and using a new configured machine screw with matching threads of course-I also have some firing pins I turned on my South Bend lathe from O2- need to see the entire broken one first before I can possibly match it-- Charlie- I hope you "Hit for the cycle" on your Tom Turkeys- MI does not yet have a minimum beard length for the spring season- the Fall season here- you can take either a Tom or a Hen-I like the chests marinated in Jack Daniels and grilled over hardwood with JD barbeque sauce- that way, if you overcook the bird, you can always drink the gravy- straight up on on the rocks- your call!
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Dave, I would use A2 or D2 air hardening tool steel. After hardening I would draw the screw down to Rc 28-32 You want the screw to be tough but not brittle. I would also check the fit of the hammer to the spindle it should fit fairly snug so that the screw is doing minimal work. Something is side loading that screw. As you know those screws are not that strong so any side load will just pop the heads off.
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Thanks, I used to do some blacksmithing and made tools with both D2 & D3. Really tough steel. Will get some D2 rod.
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