Parker Reproduction "Production Chart"

[Don Mills]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

At least 52 BHE .410? Where are they?

I think it generated that number solely based upon the serial number observed according to the notes column. Not sure that there is a completely direct correlation between serial number and number produced in this case.

[Bill Murphy]

Thank you.

[William Woods]

I read the information on the "P" guns and there appears to be two different camps. One says that the "P" designated guns were "Personal" guns to be gifted by the Skeuse's. This poster states he was told this by one of the Skeuse's. Another poster states he was told by one of the Skeuse's that the "P" designation was for the "Prototype" Parker Reproductions. Earlier I asked what variances qualified a Parker Reproduction to be designated a "P" gun? I did not receive an answer to that question. Having read the information on the 20/16 gauge sets ordered by the NSFL, and the 500 Krieghoff made barrels, I have other questions. I read that the NSFL sets with the 16 gauge barrels had the 16 gauge barrels numbered to the gun. These sets were manufactured with the normal serial number process. I take that to mean that those sets were numbered 1 through 1,000. That assumes that 1,000 sets were actually produced. Does any PGCA member have any documentation of the highest number set? Were the additional 500 barrels manufactured by Krieghoff serial numbered 1 through 500? Does anyone have a record of the highest serial number of the 500 16 gauge barrels? How would one know if a 16 gauge barrel set was one of the 500, or out of a broken set out of the 1,000, aside from a serial number higher than 500? Were there any 20/16 gauge sets produced other than those ordered by the NSFL? Interesting, confusing, and informative. Thanks to all for the information.

[Dean Romig]

It’s unfortunate but it is a fact that there isn’t nearly (not even close) the factual documentation on Parker Reproduction production as we have at our disposal of original Parker Brothers guns. There are so many questions and the answers to these we will never know. There is scant little (known) documentation on the Repros that in most cases we can only make educated guesses.

I’m in the camp that believes the “P” guns were personally earmarked either to be used as gifts or specially ordered and deeply discounted by Jack Skeuse for good friends and relatives… or maybe for Presentation to those folks.

How could there have been “prototype” guns numbering into the hundreds? Wouldn’t, by the mere definition of the word, such “prototypes” be limited to just a handful of examples??

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[Wild Skies]

Although William, this post doesn’t answer your specific questions regarding the NSFL guns, it nonetheless is an interesting 4-page letter written by the president of the NSFL, Jim Rikhoff, to the members of the NSFL. Make of it what you want.

[Bob Jurewicz]

I have a "P" 20/16 GA three (3) barrel set P-00415. It has 1 set of 20 GA barrels and 2 Krieghoff 16 GA Barrels all with a Parker Repro 3 barrel case and cover. All barrels are numbered to the 20 GA receiver. The Krieghoff 16 barrels have two (2) additional number stampings, the date produced and the set number. The Q1/Q2 barrels were made on 12/95 and stamped #505. The Mod/Full barrels were made on 10/94 and numbered 399.
Bob Jurewicz

[Larry the Gun Guy]

Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz

I have a "P" 20/16 GA three (3) barrel set P-00415. It has 1 set of 20 GA barrels and 2 Krieghoff 16 GA Barrels all with a Parker Repro 3 barrel case and cover. All barrels are numbered to the 20 GA receiver. The Krieghoff 16 barrels have two (2) additional number stampings, the date produced and the set number. The Q1/Q2 barrels were made on 12/95 and stamped #505. The Mod/Full barrels were made on 10/94 and numbered 399.
Bob Jurewicz

Bob, if I've never told you before how great I think you are, how cool you are, how wonderful you are, how good looking you are (even though I've never seen you), how nice you are, and how in general - just over the top you are; then let me just say it now. Now I don't want you to think I'm trying to butter you up in the event you may cosider selling that three barrel set and me being the very first one you contact. Not at all. I just think it's time to tell you how I really think about you. May I call you Dad?

[Bob Jurewicz]

My list of adoptees is ever growing.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Dean Romig

It’s unfortunate but it is a fact that there isn’t nearly (not even close) the factual documentation on Parker Reproduction production as we have at our disposal of original Parker Brothers guns. There are so many questions and the answers to these we will never know. There is scant little (known) documentation on the Repros that in most cases we can only make educated guesses.

I’m in the camp that believes the “P” guns were personally earmarked either to be used as gifts or specially ordered and deeply discounted by Jack Skeuse for good friends and relatives… or maybe for Presentation to those folks.

How could there have been “prototype” guns numbering into the hundreds? Wouldn’t, by the mere definition of the word, such “prototypes” be limited to just a handful of examples??

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Your last paragraph is the question I originally asked, worded somewhat differently. I did not understand how there could be so many Prototype guns with the same specifications. I thought that there might be subtle differences between the guns that I was unaware of. The poster that stated that one of the Skeuses told him that the "P" guns were prototypes has yet to chime in. Thank you Mr. Dean.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Although William, this post doesn’t answer your specific questions regarding the NSFL guns, it nonetheless is an interesting 4-page letter written by the president of the NSFL, Jim Rikhoff, to the members of the NSFL. Make of it what you want.

Thank you Mr. Greg.