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			Hmmm I’ve got a couple boxes of those “vintage” Winchester 10’s . Definitely stouter than I was hoping .
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			The current maximum average pressure permitted by SAAMI for 12g/2-3/4" loads is 11,500 psi.   Anyone buying commercial 12-gauge shotgun ammo that's made for a wide range of guns to include semi-autos should expect them to be loaded to about that max pressure average.   CIP (Euro) max average pressure is just a little lower. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	Craig, the velocity shown for those 10g/1-5/8 oz/2-7/8" progressive powder loads is comparable with specs when they were introduced.  | 
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			Thank you for sharing Jim, and I added the numbers here 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...U/edit?tab=t.0 In a 1927 Western Cartridge Co. flyer “Super-X The Long Range Load” by Capt. Chas. Askins, the Super-X 10g 1 5/8 oz. “about 4 1/2 Drams” (DuPont Oval) No. 2 shot Full choke 32” barrel, average velocity over 40 yds. 1030 fps; “up to 13,000 psi” by crushers = about 14,500 psi by modern transducers. Some time ago Armbrust ballistic tested some loads from the 30s and found the results to be inconsistent; he felt from primer rather than powder degradation. It's possible that those shells when fresh might have run higher pressures. 
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