old gun, new shells

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

I am shooting my way through 30 flats of Armusa in my O/U's and it's great ammo. It's 2 3/4", 1oz #8 1250fps we paid $90 a flat delivered from our distributor who shoots bunker in Binghamton twice a year. I'm going to see if he can get these, they look great.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

They'll be alright if he's looking for hunting loads. All they have right now are #5 and #6. They are out of #7 1/2.

[Drew Hause]

More than you probably want to read Clark, but this might be helpful
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads...-shoot.366087/

We know the loads that Parker recommended and now have good data as to the pressures those loads generated. It is prudent to use lower recoiling loads in our vintage doubles however.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Drew Hause

We know the loads that Parker recommended and now have good data as to the pressures those loads generated. It is prudent to use lower recoiling loads in our vintage doubles however.

As Drew stated, no need to beat the snot out of those 100 year old wooden stocks.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Stan Hillis

I was just recently made aware of this offering to those of us with short chambered vintage guns. Looks like a viable option.

Twelve gauge, 2.5", 6100 psi, 1170 fps. Also available in 16 ga. Now, if they'll just offer it in 20 . . . . .

https://claysammo.com/armusa-12-ga-2...free-shipping/

I have ordered from them and received the 12GA rounds. The 16GA will not be available until January according to the website. I ordered two cases of the 16GA shells. The 16's are only available in 7 1/2 shot size currently.

I have yet to fire any of the rounds I have received from them.

[Daniel Gates]

I use the 2.5” Gamebore Regal 28gram #5 and #6 in my 1913 Hooton and Jones and Parker VH for pheasants, Partridge and Grouse and they extract fine and don’t in my opinion have much felt recoil in the light weight gun. That being said I haven’t shot any out of any of my Damascus guns but know a guy with a GH that uses them every year for grouse when he goes moose hunting they definitely aren’t the most economical shells in Canada but the quality of the hulls are nice for reloading.

[Dean Romig]

I never hesitate to shoot them in my “Damascus” guns as long as the loads don’t exceed the pressures these guns were made to shoot… and I always shoot shells that are length-appropriate to my measured chamber depths.





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[Rick Roemer]

I noticed a vendor in our Parker Pages magazine and decided to give them a try. They make low pressure/low velocity shells. This ammo works well for me. I use number four shot in 12 gauge. I see they also have 16. Salt Creek Ammo
https://saltcreekammo.com/products/l...muth-20-rounds

[Scott Chapman]

Originally Posted by Rick Roemer

I noticed a vendor in our Parker Pages magazine and decided to give them a try. They make low pressure/low velocity shells. This ammo works well for me. I use number four shot in 12 gauge. I see they also have 16. Salt Creek Ammo
https://saltcreekammo.com/products/l...muth-20-rounds

I used Salt Creek with my Trojan 12 and they killed ducks just fine.

But my favorite is Boss 16 gauge 3 drams #5 through my 16 Trojan as well as Boss 2 3/4" 3/5 through the Trojan 12. The Boss aren't low pressure and aren't short chambered but I'm not too concerned.

My grandfather ran 2 3/4" Remington Express and Winchester Super X through them just fine.

The wood seems to handle it fine. If you are shooting ducks and pheasants it's not like you are pounding hundreds of rounds down range.

I did have the barrels checked out by Kirk Merrington before I proceeded.

[Clark McCombe]

Great information,
Thank you to all.
My idea of fun would be to get to know this old gun as I have gotten to know an old tractor I use. It has its characteristics and quirks, the way it sounds and handles means something to me. No one can just jump on it and expect to get it started and run flawlessly.
I expect the Parker is the same way - incredible craftsmanship - but also requires the respect it deserves to perform as it is capable of.