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Finally got ahold of the gentleman that sells the hats but he won't be back in the shop until March 25th. I wish Randy would have come back to the table but I think he was after a hot deal. A buddy of mine bought a Ithaca 5E 28 gauge and I was wanting to show him the gun. I was thinking this is a super rare gun in 410 but I'm not sure about 28 gauge.