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Unread 02-19-2024, 08:44 PM   #1
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Thank you Edgar for reinforcing the exact point that I had made.
Oh? And what was that? Do you agree the treatment of the checkering surrounding the fleu de lis on the gun shown (on the back page of the PP) is not consistent with an AAH?
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Oh? Do you agree the treatment of the checkering surrounding the fleu de lis on the gun shown (on the back page of the PP) is not consistent with an AAH?
Edgar the question was not posed to me directly but, yes I agree. We have seen at least one AH with the checkering around the fleur in the same fashion as an AAH but I do not ever recall seeing an AAH with checkering around the fleur, or lack of such as the one you have referenced. It is more consistent with an A or B as you previously noted. Might make for an interesting letter.
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The question was directed to anyone, so thank you for taking the time to let me know I wasn't imagining it. Since there were so few AAH guns made in 28ga., it makes one wonder if a letter would contain "make like......" or some such validation of it's origin. Without that, it could mean mistake, restock, upgrade, or several other possibilities. It would certainly seem, at least from the picture, that the gun is an AAH, and why the stock is anything else, adds to the mystique. Certainly would still be the crowning piece in anyone's collection.
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Edgar the question was not posed to me directly but, yes I agree. We have seen at least one AH with the checkering around the fleur in the same fashion as an AAH but I do not ever recall seeing an AAH with checkering around the fleur, or lack of such as the one you have referenced. It is more consistent with an A or B as you previously noted. Might make for an interesting letter.
This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...102565449#md-7
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When CSMC says “make offer”, the price is too high. SN looks to be Photoshopped out of the trigger guard tang. Maybe it’s just me, but my spider sense tingles when I read their ads.
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When CSMC says “make offer”, the price is too high. SN looks to be Photoshopped out of the trigger guard tang. Maybe it’s just me, but my spider sense tingles when I read their ads.
Ya gotta start somewhere.
While I was sitting on the couch talking to Tony, Lou came to him and asked about an email inquiry. The gun in question was marked $9995, and Tony said without hesitation "$8500". If you're not savvy enough to make an offer, you either didn't do your homework, or you don't know what something's worth.
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Ya gotta start somewhere.
While I was sitting on the couch talking to Tony, Lou came to him and asked about an email inquiry. The gun in question was marked $9995, and Tony said without hesitation "$8500". If you're not savvy enough to make an offer, you either didn't do your homework, or you don't know what something's worth.
Another tangent approach to advice on the "Thank me, Spank me" school of gun price negotiation! There are several masters of it on this and other BBSs. They know that we know that they know who they are.

Open your mouth and, as the PA Dutch say, "Spricht the Spacht!" At a firehouse gun show over the weekend, a timid soul walked in a new condition Winchester 1200 pump gun with 3 barrels, 1 deer slug with sights, 1 vent 26" IC, 1 30 Full vent.

He wanted to sell it and asked me if I thought $250 was too much for it with al 3 barrels and the case. I told him to let the "dealers" tell him what they would pay for it. About 12 minutes later he came by my table and said, "Wow, he musta really liked it; I got about 3X what I wanted for it!" Not a Parker, not a Purdey, but a great object lesson in gun trading.
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This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...102565449#md-7
Interesting Edgar. Pics are poor but from what I can see I don't like the way the cheek panels are cut in. Angle looks off for a Parker to me ????
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This BHE just turned up on GI, checkered like an AA.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...102565449#md-7
I ordered a letter on this gun some time back. Gun was originally a pistol grip gun so it was restocked by someone along the way.
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I understand your point Edgar. Problem is certain vendors of vintage doubles seem to have an abundance of “high grade” guns that fall into the serial number range that we have no records to prove they have upgraded or are original. I’ll let it go at that.
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