Ithaca NID 28-gauge

[James Brad Rhodenizer]

Yes, Craig, that is the gun I was shooting.

[Researcher]

When the 28-gauge was added to the NID offerings in the first 1932 Ithaca catalog it was offered with 26- or 28-inch barrels. That remained the case through the 1939 Ithaca catalog. Beginning with the 1940 Ithaca catalog they only list 26-inch barrels for the 28-gauge. Long ago at one of The Vintage Cup events at Orvis Sandanona, Steve Barnett had a NID No. 7E 28-gauge on his tables. I snapped a few pics and while I never measured them, the tag lists 25-inch barrels?!?

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Ithaca never listed barrels longer than 30-inch for the 20-gauge NID, but I've seen several 32-inch 20-gauges.

When the 28-gauge was added to Ithaca doubles in the Flues era, the catalogs list 24- and 26-inch barrels up thru the July 1919 Ithaca catalog. From the December 1919 Ithaca catalog through the 1925 they only list 26-inch. For 22 years I've owned a Flues No. 1 Special 28-gauge with 30-inch Cockerill Steel barrels --

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Info from Walter showed it was shipped 05/25/1915 to F.K. Pierce.

[6pt-Sika]

I’ve had an NID 20 in my hands that was 32” with vent rib barrels .

[Reggie B]

Originally Posted by CraigThompson

I’ve had an NID 20 in my hands that was 32” with vent rib barrels .

The Indiana mafia is reported to have one, at least one. Maybe just a rumor.

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

The Indiana mafia is reported to have one, at least one. Maybe just a rumor.

One that was in my hands didn’t belong to The Godfather’s of Indiana .

[Researcher]

In 1969 as a poor Navy E-3 I made my first pilgrimage to Kerr's Sport Shop in Beverly Hills. In the display counter in the gun department they had a fully optioned NID No. 7E, 20-gauge, 32-inch, but that was before I started keeping track of serial numbers.

In the Fall 2014 Julia's Auction they had NID 457439 a fully optioned No. 7E, 32-inch, 20-gauge, which I suspect was the gun I saw in 1969 as it had originally shipped to Tufts-Lyons Arms Co. in Los Angeles in 1930.

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It sold for $77,625 at the Julia's Auction. Those extra two-inches of barrel cost a lot. In the October 2016 Julia's Auction, 30-inch fully optioned 20-gauge No. 7E, 457447 went for $20,700.

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In the Fall 2017 Julia's Auction, 457466, No. 7E 20-gauge with 30- and 26-inch barrels didn't make reserve. Three long barrel No. 7E 20-gauges all in the 457xxx range. My No. 4E 30-inch 20-gauge is also in the 457xxx range.

[Researcher]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

In the Fall 2017 Julia's Auction, 457466, No. 7E 20-gauge with 30- and 26-inch barrels didn't make reserve. Three long barrel No. 7E 20-gauges all in the 457xxx range. My No. 4E 30-inch 20-gauge is also in the 457xxx range.

Been thumbing through the old Julia's Auction catalog archive and found a fourth No. 7E 20-gauge, also in the 457xxx range, 457510, a fully optioned 30-incher that went for $28,750 in the Spring 2008 auction --

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Ten years ago, a fully optioned 32-inch No. 4E 20-gauge went for less than ten grand --

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[Randy Roberts]

Originally Posted by Reggie Bishop

The Indiana mafia is reported to have one, at least one. Maybe just a rumor.

Not a rumor Reggie, somehow I have managed to find 2 of these. Both are 20 gauge 4E with 32" VR Barrels. One will end up in PA with Mr. Ithaca himself some day

Dave, if you are tracking serial numbers shoot me a PM and I can get them to you if you have interest. I believe one is 454XXX and the other is in the 455 range.

As for now off to the woods we go

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts

Not a rumor Reggie, somehow I have managed to find 2 of these. Both are 20 gauge 4E with 32" VR Barrels. One will end up in PA with Mr. Ithaca himself some day

Dave, if you are tracking serial numbers shoot me:

And The Godfather of Southern Indiana has spoken