Greener questions

Jay Oliver · 10-17-2023, 04:50 PM

That's a beautiful Greener. A light 12 proofed to 1 1/4...that might kick a little. I like light 12s and do very well with 3/4oz loads. That is a very nice gun that you would have a lot of fun with.

Here is Gene Hill's Greener that I was lucky enough to acquire this past year. I have posted a few pictures on the forum previously. As others have said, it's a 1912 16ga. with 24" barrels. original pad, single selective trigger choked IC/M with ejectors and that top tang safety. It shoots very well and I like the shorter barrels. Hoping to take my first woodcock with it in a few weeks...

Marty K. · 10-17-2023, 06:47 PM

Jay.....I had seen your previous post and am very envious. If I had known that that gun was available you would have gotten a run for your money. I had thought about PMing you to try and take it off your hands as I am a big Gene Hill fan. Thanks for posting again and when you take that first Woodcock somewhere Gene will be smiling. Good luck with it.

Marty K. · 10-17-2023, 07:00 PM

Kevin.... I was hoping someone here could direct me to a source where I could find out what grade it is. I also was wondering if this very lite 12 gauge was a special order or are 12’s this light rather common? I had seen letters before on Greener’s and am sorry Graham has discontinued this service. I am hoping someone will continue to provide Greener information. I will continue to use google in my search for that someone.

Any comments again are appreciated. Thanks.

Drew Hause · 10-17-2023, 08:09 PM

Marty: we could confirm the 1896-1904 date of proof with a close up of the barrel flats. It should be marked '1 1/4 oz Max'.
1904-1925 would be '1 1/4 oz Shot'.

Under the 1896 Rules of Proof 12g 2 1/2” and 2 5/8” chambers (bore .710-.740) were proved for a maximum service load
of 3 1/4 Dram Eq. with 1 1/4 oz. shot. (1220 fps)
Under the 1904 Revisions, Supplementary Nitro Proof for 12g 2 1/2” and 2 5/8” chambers was for a service load 1 1/8 oz.

'70' (without mm) would be a post 1989 chamber length mark, but if reproved after honing it should have a Crown over R and be marked with bore in mm and BAR, and will have a Proof House date code

Bore 10” from Breech L. .787 choke.030 R .734 choke .010
That is .737" on L?

Cornell Pubs has 1900, 03', 04' & 06' Greener catalog repros so if we can narrow down the DOM you could order the appropriate catalog to ID the grade
https://cornellpubs.com/product-tag/w/page/4/