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Unread 03-14-2023, 08:58 PM   #1
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That's really a "created scenario" that rarely happens. The fact is that "smoke" creates self-confidence, whereas chips do not. And, self confidence makes you a better shot. I'll put my money on a sporting clays shooter that prefers tight chokes. I've shot nothing but .020" and .020" in my Perazzi 31 1/2" MX 8 since about 2008. Punched into M class in 2010. Never seen the need for screw-ins in that gun. If I have a close-in, erratic, rabbit target I drop in a spreader and handle it that way.

Different chokes for different "fokes".
I do the same thing Stan. I change shot size depending on the target. Also use spreaders for bunnies. I can truly say I’ve never missed a target because of too much choke but I have picked up targets due to tighter chokes.
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Here’s my prescription for trap: Full choke for singles; tight full for handicap; modified for first shot in doubles and full for second shot. #8 shot for singles and first shot in doubles; #7 1/2 shot in handicap and second shot in doubles. Works for me.

And I’ll take the middle road. I go for ink balls but will take whatever I can get.
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I am a lucky sporting clays shooter, in that I am not looking for a high 90s score and don't lament the occasional miss caused by my tight chokes. As long as we're sharing old shooting quotes, let me give you one that has not been used on this thread. "The great majority of misses are not measured in inches. Most are measured in feet." The size of the pattern does not cause anywhere near as many misses as lifted heads and peeking at sights. Just my experience.
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I am a lucky sporting clays shooter, in that I am not looking for a high 90s score and don't lament the occasional miss caused by my tight chokes. As long as we're sharing old shooting quotes, let me give you one that has not been used on this thread. "The great majority of misses are not measured in inches. Most are measured in feet." The size of the pattern does not cause anywhere near as many misses as lifted heads and peeking at sights. Just my experience.
100’s for me are in relation to skeet/trap as to that other so called game if I’m over 80% I’m pleased .
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Concerning 12 gauge guns with one exception all that I own are choked in excess of .030, some substantially more. I don't even think about chokes any more as long as they are tight, just shoot and move on. I have carried the same 2 boxes of spreaders to Haussmans, The Rock, and the Southern for I don't really know how long now, they are still full. Same intention every trip, use em on the bunny. Same mind set every trip, I ain't wasting the time digging them out. Don't get me wrong I thinks it's a great idea on the bunny but I just get into a shooting mode mentally and either forget that I have them or just refuse to change anything in my routine. BUT, I have committed to using them in 2023, really.

My shooting pal says with reference to tight chokes costing shooters targets that "tight chokes don't matter, you're either on it or you ain't." After years of hearing him say that I'm not so sure that he isn't correct.
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Craig, having shot one "Perfect 100" in an event and many 99, 98, 97s too, it's so easy to make one mental mistake and give up that coveted 100. Bad mount, bad trigger pull, off line, out in front, behind.....The list goes on and on. Doesn't matter how soft we set a course, every bird needs the same amount of focus. The "easy" birds are the ones we don't focus hard on and that causes misses. The mental game causes more misses than a choke combination, which can also be part of the mental game. Let's say you look at a pair, quartering birds, slow to medium speed, kill zone at 20-25 yards and you think you need IC/SK. You swap out your M or LM, then proceed to miss the first pair. Now your mind blames the choke selection instead of an improper mount and connection with the birds. That doubt will most likely cause at least another miss if not more. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
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Craig, having shot one "Perfect 100" in an event and many 99, 98, 97s too, it's so easy to make one mental mistake and give up that coveted 100. Bad mount, bad trigger pull, off line, out in front, behind.....The list goes on and on. Doesn't matter how soft we set a course, every bird needs the same amount of focus. The "easy" birds are the ones we don't focus hard on and that causes misses. The mental game causes more misses than a choke combination, which can also be part of the mental game. Let's say you look at a pair, quartering birds, slow to medium speed, kill zone at 20-25 yards and you think you need IC/SK. You swap out your M or LM, then proceed to miss the first pair. Now your mind blames the choke selection instead of an improper mount and connection with the birds. That doubt will most likely cause at least another miss if not more. Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.
Buddy you’re preaching to the choir ! Over the years I got a decent number of 100’s at skeet in 12 , 20 and 28 . But the damn 410 had my number I had a veritable pile of 98’s and 99’s with the 410 never could get that nor the 400x400 I sure wanted back when I was eaten up with the skeet bug .
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