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I’ve had I think two hammer guns with ball grips and my DH 8 has a ball grip .
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The so-called “Prince of Wales” or “POW” grip on a Parker gun is a misnomer.
The true Prince of Wales grip was originally designed and made by Churchill who made shotgund to the specs and fitting of the Prince of Wales, King Edward VII (formerly Prince Albert Edward, eldest son of Queen Victoria). No other gunmaker could make a gunstock with this particular design and name it a Prince of Wales grip. This from David Trevallion who received his gunmaking and stock-making training at Purdey’s of London. There is the P - pistol grip which is different from others (“C”) that had a capped pistol grip and then there was the “B” for ball grip, which in my opinion was the distinctly bulbous ball on the pistol grip of earlier hammer guns. In any case, Parker never made a Prince of Wales, either capped or not, nor did they ever refer to any of their grips as such. I only wish they could have been more definitive in recording the type of grip a gun had. .
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It’s interesting that I have found ball grips on CH guns more than any other hammerless grade.
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First time I visited the Southern there was a dealer there from FL , he had FIVE VH/VHE 410’s of which two had ball grips .
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The majority of half-pistol grip Parker Bros. hammerless guns I've seen have been .410-bores. |
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Thanks Dean. All those folks are my ancestors. This gun in the ID and Ser. book is in the middle of 17 with a P for stock code so not too rare in 1900. Looking at surrounding pages that seems strange. The serial number is 94523. I wonder why so many at the time.
Page 40 Fig D-3 shows Annie Oakley's gun and says it is coded as B. That must be a different shape. Huummm. |
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My 410 VH has a ball grip. Early Remington gun when they were still in Meriden.
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Most Parker Bros. catalogs just say "Straight or Pistol Grip"
Quality G.H. Blue Ink Catalog grip highlighted.jpg Quality G.H. Ejector Catalog grip highlighted.jpg GH & GHE 1923 grips highlighted.jpg GH & GHE 1927 grips highlighted.jpg In 1929 they differentiated full pistol and half pistol -- DH- January 1, 1929.jpeg but 1930 they didn't -- January 1, 1930, GHE grip highlighted.jpg |
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