Straight Grip DHE 28ga, 28” Barrels, Double Triggers On GI

[edgarspencer]

When I read Dean's comment, I took it to mean 'measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping'.
My last 28 Repro was stamped IC and Mod, but measured Mod and Full.

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

When I read Dean's comment, I took it to mean 'measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping'.
My last 28 Repro was stamped IC and Mod, but measured Mod and Full.

I think we both had similar, but different understandings of what Dean said. Your understanding was to "measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping", mine was that "M/F (or IC/M) patterns can vary with load selection".

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

I think we both had similar, but different understandings of what Dean said. Your understanding was to "measure the chokes because they don't conform to the stamping", mine was that "M/F (or IC/M) patterns can vary with load selection".

I'm not sure any load will give IC and MOD patterns with .015" and .021" chokes.

[Wild Skies]

Originally Posted by edgarspencer

I'm not sure any load will give IC and MOD patterns with .015" and .021" chokes.

Why wouldn't spreaders do it?

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Why wouldn't spreaders do it?

From a purely academic perspective, they would. From a practical perspective, Spreader inserts for 28ga are likely not available, for the handloader. Also, Spreaders are generally only available in target shot. There are those who would want the 28 for hunting. Are there spreaders in 5, 6 71/2?
Let me counter with a question; Why not bore it, as stamped, or stamp it, as bored?

Call me a 'dreamer' if you like, but I bought the gun wanting a true IC and MOD. If I didn't already have a couple Meriden made 28ga guns, I'd have those barrels up to Mike Orlen in a heartbeat

[Wild Skies]

Edgar, 99.96% of my shooting is done with reloads. About the only time I buy and shoot new shells is to replenish hulls for reloading. As a reloader of 28ga. I still have a bag and a half (500/bag) of 28ga. Spred-R inserts, but having 28ga. Repros choked Q1/Q2, IC/M and M/F I have little need to load up Spred-R's for my shooting needs. I can just use another set of barrels, but if the need arises I have a lifetime supply of the inserts on hand just in case. I don't know why the Spred-R would't work just as efficiently with #5, 6 or 7 1/2 shot as they do with 8s or 9s.

As for your counter question, I haven't any idea -- you'd expect that the gun would produce patterns commensurate with its choke designation. I also have to believe that your IC/M stamped Repro with .015/.021 constrictions falls outside the norm and is an exception rather than the rule.

Maybe you should have measured that IC/M stamped barrels before you wrote the check, eh?

[edgarspencer]

Originally Posted by Greg Baehman

Edgar, 99.96% of my shooting is done with reloads. About the only time I buy and shoot new shells is to replenish hulls for reloading. As a reloader of 28ga. I still have a bag and a half (500/bag) of 28ga. Spred-R inserts, but having 28ga. Repros choked Q1/Q2, IC/M and M/F I have little need to load up Spred-R's for my shooting needs. I can just use another set of barrels, but if the need arises I have a lifetime supply of the inserts on hand just in case. I don't know why the Spred-R would't work just as efficiently with #5, 6 or 7 1/2 shot as they do with 8s or 9s.

As for your counter question, I haven't any idea -- you'd expect that the gun would produce patterns commensurate with its choke designation. I also have to believe that your IC/M stamped Repro with .015/.021 constrictions falls outside the norm and is an exception rather than the rule.

Maybe you should have measured that IC/M stamped barrels before you wrote the check, eh?

I wonder if those in inserts are still available. I load 28s also, but it's kind of a pain to segregate ammo on a per-gun basis.
I am sure my 28 was more the exception and not the rule. I bought it from a gun shop on the opposite side of the country, and am not a fan of shipping stuff back and forth. I would have believed I could take it's stamping as truth, so never gave it a lot of thought. plus it filled the gap between my factory 24" and factory 28".
The two barrel set I gave my daughter measures exactly as marked.