Flues 20 gauge thoughts

[Steiner]

I have not. I'm not familiar with that site. Do you have a link to the site?

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Dan Steingraber

I have not. I'm not familiar with that site. Do you have a link to the site?

Dan, it’s the Rock Island Auction Co. rockislandauction.com The guns sell on Sunday, along with several other interesting UK guns, including a Purdey live bird hammer gun.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

The pair of MacNaughtons (did I spell that correctly?) at RIAC on Sunday are interesting. Have you looked at them?

Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon

Dan, it’s the Rock Island Auction Co. rockislandauction.com The guns sell on Sunday, along with several other interesting UK guns, including a Purdey live bird hammer gun.

Im headed out the door to shoot sporting clays with the GH 16 gauge I just picked up. 1891 built w/damascus. I'll find them later.

[mobirdhunter]

Originally Posted by Dan Steingraber

Im headed out the door to shoot sporting clays with the GH 16 gauge I just picked up. 1891 built w/damascus. I'll find them later.

Check lot# 3401

And, shoot well!

[Researcher]

I've posted this before.

By the mid-1920s, Ithaca had beefed up their Flues doubles quite a bit. In the 1912 through at least 1915 Ithaca catalogues they give their smallbore weights as --

16-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4
20-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4
28-ga 4 3/4 to 5 1/4

In the July 1919, Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 5 lbs. 14 ozs. to 6 1/2
20-ga 5 1/2 to 6
28-ga 5 to 5 1/2

In the December 1, 1919, Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 6 to 6 3/4
20-ga 5 3/4 to 6
28-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4

In the 1925 Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 6 1/4 to 6 3/4
20-ga 6 to 6 1/2
28-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4

At the time the two Ithaca No. 1 1/2s in question here were new, North American 20-gauge shells were offered with 3/4 and 7/8-ounce loads. When the 1-ounce, progressive burning powder, high velocity, load came out in 1922, Western Cartridge Co. put their Super-X load in their 2 3/4-inch FIELD shell. Remington with their Model 17 pump made for 2 3/4-inch shells followed with their 20-gauge Heavy Duck Load put up in their 2 3/4-inch Nitro Club shell. Winchester with a boat load of their Model 12 20-gauge pumps out in the world made for 2 1/2-inch shells stuffed the 1-ounce high velocity load in their 2 1/2-inch shells.

Leader 2 1 2 inch 20-gauge 1 ounce Du Pont Oval.jpg

Winchester continued to offer the 20-gauge 2 1/2-inch Super-Speed load up to WW-II --

Super-Speed 2 1-2 inch 20-gauge.jpg

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen

I've posted this before.

By the mid-1920s, Ithaca had beefed up their Flues doubles quite a bit. In the 1912 through at least 1915 Ithaca catalogues they give their smallbore weights as --

16-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4
20-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4
28-ga 4 3/4 to 5 1/4

In the July 1919, Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 5 lbs. 14 ozs. to 6 1/2
20-ga 5 1/2 to 6
28-ga 5 to 5 1/2

In the December 1, 1919, Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 6 to 6 3/4
20-ga 5 3/4 to 6
28-ga 5 1/4 to 5 3/4

In the 1925 Ithaca catalogue --

16-ga 6 1/4 to 6 3/4
20-ga 6 to 6 1/2
28-ga 5 3/4 to 6 1/4

At the time the two Ithaca No. 1 1/2s in question here were new, North American 20-gauge shells were offered with 3/4 and 7/8-ounce loads. When the 1-ounce, progressive burning powder, high velocity, load came out in 1922, Western Cartridge Co. put their Super-X load in their 2 3/4-inch FIELD shell. Remington with their Model 17 pump made for 2 3/4-inch shells followed with their 20-gauge Heavy Duck Load put up in their 2 3/4-inch Nitro Club shell. Winchester with a boat load of their Model 12 20-gauge pumps out in the world made for 2 1/2-inch shells stuffed the 1-ounce high velocity load in their 2 1/2-inch shells.

Attachment 106689

Winchester continued to offer the 20-gauge 2 1/2-inch Super-Speed load up to WW-II --

Attachment 106690

In support of this information, I have a Flues 28 gauge serial # 369437, which dates it to 1923 and it weighs 5lbs 13 oz.